Will coal home heating make a comeback?

[grumpy]

It's going to be 7 below Tuesday night, I'm not ready... lol

[k-2]

It's going to be 7 below Tuesday night, I'm not ready... lol

It wont be warming up until next sunday when it gets above freezing again in this neck of the woods. I hope yur ready.

[grumpy]

I'm ready to go to the Keys

[k-2]

I'm ready to go to the Keys

Central florida will be in the low 40s friday night.

[grumpy]

Wow that's cold, people
Gonna freeze.

[k-2]

Wow that's cold, people
Gonna freeze.

They actually have cold centers there by the cape where people with no home heat can go. They will be open this week.
Id think a couple plug in electric heater swould be enough for the 40s.

[waytomany?s]

https://centerfarmscoal.com/bulk-coal-delivery/

[k-2]

Only way i think coal can make a comeback is if Nat gas all of a sudden becomes very expensive. Lot of diesel fuel need to mine coal so that a factor. Nat gas is cheapest fuel in the mix and very abundant.

[Richard S.]

Only way i think coal can make a comeback is if Nat gas all of a sudden becomes very expensive. Lot of diesel fuel need to mine coal so that a factor. Nat gas is cheapest fuel in the mix and very abundant.

Your primary customers for coal are semi rural and rural and don't have access to piped nat gas so it's really not a factor as far as directly heating a home. When I was delivering if I had to guess 95%+ didn't have gas. It could effect electric prices for heat pumps.

[kerryman71]

Only way i think coal can make a comeback is if Nat gas all of a sudden becomes very expensive. Lot of diesel fuel need to mine coal so that a factor. Nat gas is cheapest fuel in the mix and very abundant.

Which is the case in Massachusetts. I bought my house in October, with oil heat and two mini splits, both new to me. My whole life I had natural gas, so it was going to be a learning curve. Well, both the gas company (Eversource) and electric company (National Grid) sought permission through the state Dept of Public Utilities for rate increases of 30 to 40% which were approved, making it cheaper to heat with oil now. I did the math for my condo that I sold off my last bill, which used natural gas for heat.

When comparing options, I think a lot of people don't factor everything in when using fuel calculators. My electric rates are .16 cents per kWH for usage, but when you factor in distribution charges and the myriad of fees attached, such as distribution charge, transmission charge, energy efficiency charge, solar charge, EV charge etc, it comes out to .34 cents per kWH. I pay more in fees than actual usage. Many people who completely replaced their heating with heat pump technology have found this out the hard way!

A gas pipeline into MA was voted down about 10 years ago. There's a major push to do away with fossil fuels and go all electric here. Apparently most people here don't know how electricity is generated, possibly believing it's the wind captured from butterfly wings and unicorns. I don't know what the exact numbers were against it, but there's now a push by the voters to have a gas line piped into Massachusetts, which naturally the governor and state legislature are against.

I'm in the process of installing my coal stove, which will be up and running for the fall/winter. I was originally looking at pellet stoves, but when I saw coal stoves for sale I looked into it and felt that the benefits were much greater over pellet stoves. I've been talking with people who had a lot of misconceptions of coal, and may have some converts here in Massachusetts.

[waytomany?s]

Which is the case in Massachusetts. I bought my house in October, with oil heat and two mini splits, both new to me. My whole life I had natural gas, so it was going to be a learning curve. Well, both the gas company (Eversource) and electric company (National Grid) sought permission through the state Dept of Public Utilities for rate increases of 30 to 40% which were approved, making it cheaper to heat with oil now. I did the math for my condo that I sold off my last bill, which used natural gas for heat.

When comparing options, I think a lot of people don't factor everything in when using fuel calculators. My electric rates are .16 cents per kWH for usage, but when you factor in distribution charges and the myriad of fees attached, such as distribution charge, transmission charge, energy efficiency charge, solar charge, EV charge etc, it comes out to .34 cents per kWH. I pay more in fees than actual usage. Many people who completely replaced their heating with heat pump technology have found this out the hard way!

A gas pipeline into MA was voted down about 10 years ago. There's a major push to do away with fossil fuels and go all electric here. Apparently most people here don't know how electricity is generated, possibly believing it's the wind captured from butterfly wings and unicorns. I don't know what the exact numbers were against it, but there's now a push by the voters to have a gas line piped into Massachusetts, which naturally the governor and state legislature are against.

I'm in the process of installing my coal stove, which will be up and running for the fall/winter. I was originally looking at pellet stoves, but when I saw coal stoves for sale I looked into it and felt that the benefits were much greater over pellet stoves. I've been talking with people who had a lot of misconceptions of coal, and may have some converts here in Massachusetts.

So what are the price comparisons for you? Could you list them as per the calculator?

[kerryman71]

This is based off the last gas bill I paid prior to selling my condominium, where the bill was based off $2.74 per therm.

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[Retro_Origin]

Yes, I saw someone mentioned on heating help how high the natural gas is up there, crazy! I never thought I'd see oil cheaper than anything! Just goes to show, supply and demand can do some weird things.

[Petec]

I just lit my first coal fire. I have a Vermont. Casting vigilant paid 430 for a ton of nut coal today. I expect that the heating season here in New ( california) York is closing but I like the idea and cleaniness of coal compared to wood