Advice on coal stove setup
- Lightning
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Hi Jeff, welcome to the coal board. Getting around the fireplace damper is challenging, I ended up cutting some of it out of the way. Other than that, once you get the pipe up into the chimney (a few feet is plenty) it needs to be sealed against the chimney walls. Simply stuff fiberglass insulation or rock wool between the pipe and the chimney wall to make the seal.
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thanks for all the help....located some flex liner on marketplace, guy had some leftover from his job. still checking out stoves, the guy that has the 50-93 is out of town this week,so i will check on that asap. ive got my eyes open for other deals in the mean time. ill keep you posted on progress. id like to have a setup in place by beginning of october!
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For that price $1500 that stove should be clean inside and out like a new one…even with the rise in prices, or else be patient and wait. There will be more. If looks good inside, glass is clean, grates good, paint like new…might want to grab it.
I’m seeing some that are newer and not maintained well, paint is all rust and asking >$1500+. I wish them good luck with that. I’m not paying that much for a newer abused Hitzer. Often times it’s those $700-$800 stoves that look better than some higher priced that people didn’t take care of.
Yes….with inflation things will be higher, but be picky and patient. Deals still out there. Asking and getting are two different things for abused stoves.
I’m seeing some that are newer and not maintained well, paint is all rust and asking >$1500+. I wish them good luck with that. I’m not paying that much for a newer abused Hitzer. Often times it’s those $700-$800 stoves that look better than some higher priced that people didn’t take care of.
Yes….with inflation things will be higher, but be picky and patient. Deals still out there. Asking and getting are two different things for abused stoves.
- Sunny Boy
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The high price of coal may have an impact on used coal stove prices. As a result, quite a few members on here have mentioned switching away from coal.
I know I'd hate to be trying to sell a coal stove now.
Paul
I know I'd hate to be trying to sell a coal stove now.
Paul
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All good points, and i will continue to look....but i just had oil delivered this morning here in nj. i have a small cottage on my property that i rent out. $ 4.07 per gallon. i weighed my options about alternative heat, i still felt coal was best way to go even at $430 per ton bagged. wood pellets are around 350 per ton? aint nothing cheap in this country anymore. we have a govt that hates fossil fuels and i dont see that policy changing anytime soon. And even if we get a change in president, that wont be until Next january! IM really hoping that my coal setup can heat my whole house, even if i have to run my furnace first thing in the morning for an hour or so on the coldest days of winter...time will tell.
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You're going to burn a lot of coal to heat that great room. I'd be surprised if the heat migration is much if at all. It may help you lessen the heat load on the furnace though. Cost savings may be negligible, however you won't know until you try. Try and keep track of the numbers. It will be interesting to see.
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Cold air is heavier, aim fan to push/pull it towards the stove.
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Way is spot on. Took me years to learn it but push the cold air towards the heat with a fan on the floor. Then stand in doorway and feel the heat coming back at you. Then you'll be convinced.
You'll have to try it a few different ways to find what works best.
You'll have to try it a few different ways to find what works best.
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Ha ha, yes there is a learning curve! After heating with wood for years here with a fan sitting by the stove blowing the heat towards the room I sleep in (or trying too), I started burning coal, found this forum, and read the posts on this forum religiously and didnt really believe it until I tried it.
I have a roughly 2 foot drop between my living room and the other 2 downstairs rooms. Whichever section I am burning in I put a fan on the floor blowing into the room with a stove running and my house is a much more consistent temp. I also have ceiling fans in each room but the floor fan brings the heat to the other section, not the ceiling fan.
If a house was a leaky mess it might not matter. Otherwise it works. Just try it when the stove is putting out serious heat and stand in the doorway where the fan is and you'll feel the heat coming back. Then try turning the fan around and you'll need a sweater...
I have a roughly 2 foot drop between my living room and the other 2 downstairs rooms. Whichever section I am burning in I put a fan on the floor blowing into the room with a stove running and my house is a much more consistent temp. I also have ceiling fans in each room but the floor fan brings the heat to the other section, not the ceiling fan.
If a house was a leaky mess it might not matter. Otherwise it works. Just try it when the stove is putting out serious heat and stand in the doorway where the fan is and you'll feel the heat coming back. Then try turning the fan around and you'll need a sweater...
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Appreciate all of the help with suggestions for my Coal Stove set up. I picked up a used hitzer 50-93 about one month ago. Stove appeared to be in excellent shape and the price was right, so I made the deal. Lots of family stuff going on in the past month, so just getting around to finishing the set up now. Took the advice of most on here, found a piece of stainless steel liner 10 feet long, removed damper, put it up above the smoke shelf stuffed with Rockwool. I’m trying to figure out the best way to run the pipe. The stove is sitting on the hearth, so I’m inside the firebox of the old fireplace. There is not a lot of room to work, and I’m wondering what kind of set up I should use. Should I come straight out of the stove outlet horizontal, into a T and then up to the liner? I want to keep the liner above the arch of the fireplace so it cannot be seen. I’m wondering if the horizontal coming out of the outlet needs some angle on it, or is it going to draft right from the tee? I want to put a damper in just before the hook up to the stainless liner. There’s not a lot of pipe to be run, but it’s a cramped space and really not an easy spot to work in. Advice would be appreciated. I’ll send some pictures.
Jeff
Jeff
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