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warminmn wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:09 am There wasnt a big war going on then either which really added to the problem and to greed. Of course the argument can be made that war wouldnt have happened if he won a 2nd term. Im sure oil comapanies do like republicans in power right now too as they arent blabbing at the mouth about clean energy as much. That could affect the price a small amount. But they will grab all they can.
This BS war is going to get us into WWIII. Ukraine is and has been a very corrupt country. Russia just trying to protect their territory and the people. Regardless of the issues behind the conflict, it should be none of our business.

IMHO the USA should end all foreign aid period. Stop taxing for it. Stop extorting money from everyone. If people want to give aid to a foreign government then take up a voluntary collection instead of allocating money collected from taxpayers under duress.


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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:17 am This BS war is going to get us into WWIII. Ukraine is and has been a very corrupt country. Russia just trying to protect their territory and the people. Regardless of the issues behind the conflict, it should be none of our business.

IMHO the USA should end all foreign aid period. Stop taxing for it. Stop extorting money from everyone. If people want to give aid to a foreign government then take up a voluntary collection instead of allocating money collected from taxpayers under duress.
Russia is trying to protect their country from what exactly? And in protecting their country they focus on civilian infrastructure including schools and hospitals. I have never see where Ukraine was a threat to Russia.

I do totally agree that we should not be giving away to foreign aid. Other than countries that are defending themselves after being attacked with no provocation.

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waytomany?s wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:24 am Russia is trying to protect their country from what exactly? And in protecting their country they focus on civilian infrastructure including schools and hospitals. I have never see where Ukraine was a threat to Russia.

I do totally agree that we should not be giving away to foreign aid. Other than countries that are defending themselves after being attacked with no provocation.
You cannot have it both ways. "Other than countries that are defending themselves after being attacked with no provocation." Not our business. Besides you cannot believe the narrative being spewed by MSM. I have no desire to go into the Russia situation. If COVID can be censored and election fraud can be censored believe me the truth about Russia can be censored too just like Kennedy assassination, WMD, Vietnam, Global warming, Tower 7, Ruby Ridge, Waco, White supremacy racism, Peaceful protests, Russian collusion...... Need I go on? Point is you won't know the truth unless you search for it and put it together. Need to know the history and not the propaganda.

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Appeasement led to WW 2.

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Unfortunately, as a member of a world economy, it is our business. Did prices go up because of the war? Are there world shortages of fertilisers and grains because of it? Or is that just propaganda?

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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:30 am You cannot have it both ways. "Other than countries that are defending themselves after being attacked with no provocation." Not our business. Besides you cannot believe the narrative being spewed by MSM. I have no desire to go into the Russia situation. If COVID can be censored and election fraud can be censored believe me the truth about Russia can be censored too just like Kennedy assassination, WMD, Vietnam, Global warming, Tower 7, Ruby Ridge, Waco, White supremacy racism, Peaceful protests, Russian collusion...... Need I go on? Point is you won't know the truth unless you search for it and put it together. Need to know the history and not the propaganda.
:| We don't have enough time.

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waytomany?s wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:36 am Unfortunately, as a member of a world economy, it is our business. Did prices go up because of the war? Are there world shortages of fertilisers and grains because of it? Or is that just propaganda?
Not going to debate with you. USA has their noses and have had their noses where it doesn't belong for far too long. What came first a fertilizer shortage or US Sanctions on Russia.... Too much to list. Yes propaganda. Not trying to convince you. Bottom line it is not our business. The Southern border is our business.


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waytomany?s wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:36 am Unfortunately, as a member of a world economy, it is our business. Did prices go up because of the war? Are there world shortages of fertilisers and grains because of it? Or is that just propaganda?
The USA cannot even manage its own economy. Experts don't have a clue. Go back to just before housing collapse 2008 and experts saying everything great...Government needs to mind its business. Everybody needs to mind their business. Their business is not interfering into other peoples business.

This country should have never gotten off the gold standard and gotten away from sound money.

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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 10:15 am The USA cannot even manage its own economy. Experts don't have a clue. Go back to just before housing collapse 2008 and experts saying everything great...Government needs to mind its business. Everybody needs to mind their business. Their business is not interfering into other peoples business.

This country should have never gotten off the gold standard and gotten away from sound money.
Wholeheartedly agree.

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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 10:00 am Not going to debate with you. USA has their noses and have had their noses where it doesn't belong for far too long. What came first a fertilizer shortage or US Sanctions on Russia.... Too much to list. Yes propaganda. Not trying to convince you. Bottom line it is not our business. The Southern border is our business.
Once again, agree.

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waytomany?s wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 9:36 am Unfortunately, as a member of a world economy, it is our business. Did prices go up because of the war? Are there world shortages of fertilisers and grains because of it? Or is that just propaganda?
Can't have it both ways. You agree US experts don't have a clue and we shouldn't have gotten off the gold standard but think we should be dictating the world economy.

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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 10:25 am Can't have it both ways. You agree US experts don't have a clue and we shouldn't have gotten off the gold standard but think we should be dictating the world economy.
Not dictating, be concerned with. I think we have all seen some experts lately that should have been called something else. I never said we should dictate the worlds economy, not sure where you came up with that.

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Might be semantics. Unfortunately, as a member of a world economy, it is our business.

Do you remember a year ago the rhetoric was that Russia was losing the war and couldn't accomplish their objectives?

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Still the same from what I've been reading.


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