Sunny Boy wrote: ↑Sat. Sep. 30, 2023 2:25 pm
But the USA is not fighting this war so what does saying the USA does "scorched earth" have to do with it?
If you really believe that Russia will win and Ukraine will lose.... maybe you can tell me when that will happen? Russia has had 19 months against a much weaker adversary. Even starting out with enough equipment to strike along hundreds of miles of battle front with a huge fast-moving army, yet they are tactically worse off than a year ago.
Or do you think the Russians are still 10 miles north of Kiev ?
How's the Russian Navy doing against a country that doesn't have a navy? For a country that has such a big and powerful navy they sure have lost a lot of ships. And that's not propaganda. Moscow has admitted to losing a lot of their ships.
Paul
Paul,
I do not intend to keep this dialogue going for too much longer. It is obvious you are not going to see things the way I see them. My guess is even when it is proven that your ideology was wrong you might not see it or possibly by then you will modify your stance that you always meant....
I never stated that USA was on the ground in "this war". The USA is very destructive when they go to war. They careless about casualties of humans and or property. Why was a super power like the USA unable to quickly defeat their enemy in the middle east? Was the USA concerned with casualties of that or any other war they were involved in? What countries to this day have used the Atomic Bomb?
Russia has no desire to demolish the country it wants to help or acquire.
Consider that Russia considers it a win to not be offensively destroying life and property while risking the lives of their own countrymen. They don't mind having the foolish enemies come to them to get slaughtered while they remain in safer ground.
Only time will tell who is right or wrong.
When COVID was a pandemic, anything about alternative medication was banned from social media. Doctors and nurses were fired for prescribing or practicing other than mainstream pharmaceutical solutions. When the 2020 election was in question, those that dared to question were censored. What about JFK? I don't know but I can tell you that there is a litany of false narratives that have been perpetuated upon the American people. If you choose to believe the reporting of the Ukraine War then go for it. I am not here to try to change your mind. All I said was that I am publicly taking a different stance and in the end people like you will pretend you knew all along or your ideology will evolve with the evolving narrative. Why do you think it is important that Russia take out Ukraine fast? What difference does it make to Russia? Achieving the goal with the least amount of destruction and loss of life seems like the smart play. When Russia has more nukes than the entire rest of the world combined, think again if you think Ukraine is going to beat them in a border dispute. It is obvious that if you read that Citizens in Ukraine voted to be part of Russia that you will say the vote was not valid. Whatever. My point as is Ron Pauls point is that the USA doesn't belong involved there just like we have not belonged in any conflict since WWII.