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Please help me identify this Sears stove
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vanguy
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This is a Sears Heating Model # 641.84065 coal stove. Found it here locally. Don't think it has ever seen any coal as the firebrick and grates are pristine compared to some I've seen on here that HAD burned coal for years. I haven't been able to find a single mention of it on the web anywhere!
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vanguy
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Here are a few more photos of the Sears stove. Maybe someone will know something??
This won't be for looks. I intend to make it look and operate as originally designed if I am able. It will be sitting in my new (to me) living room, heating my home and family.
This won't be for looks. I intend to make it look and operate as originally designed if I am able. It will be sitting in my new (to me) living room, heating my home and family.
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Model # Plate. Model is: 641.84065IMG_20200705_142334466.jpg
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Stove is 27" wide (side to side}IMG_20200705_142507525.jpg
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Top of cabinet. Notice handle, it raises up.IMG_20200705_142407568.jpg
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Stove is 24" deep (front to back)IMG_20200705_142430533.jpg
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Stove is almost 42" tallIMG_20200705_142515412.jpg
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Interior of stove with cabinet lid raised.IMG_20200705_142448426.jpg
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Flue collar showing interior fire brick. Switch for auto-damper control is to the right.IMG_20200705_142526259.jpg
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Fire pot showing the grates. Fire pot is 16" deep X 16" in diameter.IMG_20200705_142719901.jpg
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Bottom of front of cabinet. Outlet for blower to blow heated air from under fire pot.IMG_20200705_142623926.jpg
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Draft damper and shaker grate handle. Notice that the ash door is on the side, not directly under the loading door.-
warminmn
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That should put out good heat. You may want to have a spare center grate made in case you ever break one of them.
Sears used oddball numbers for many things they made. The 1st 3 numbers could be the most important ones. At least they are with old Sears electronics Ive had. Other than trying to find old sears catalogs online to view, Im unsure what year it would be. If you search online for sears 641 stove you will see over a million results.
Its possible someone else made it and it was rebranded as Sears, possibly Warm Morning or Locke. Are there any numbers on top of the loading lid?
Sears used oddball numbers for many things they made. The 1st 3 numbers could be the most important ones. At least they are with old Sears electronics Ive had. Other than trying to find old sears catalogs online to view, Im unsure what year it would be. If you search online for sears 641 stove you will see over a million results.
Its possible someone else made it and it was rebranded as Sears, possibly Warm Morning or Locke. Are there any numbers on top of the loading lid?
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vanguy
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I'm pretty sure the 641 is a code for the actual manufacturer. I work on appliances and on Kenmore refrigerators and laundry appliances, the 1st 3 numbers denote actual manufacturer. IE: 110.xxxx in your dryer's model number means Whirlpool made your Kenmore dryer and rebranded it for Sears.
I was looking for a Warm Morning 400 or 460 but this stove just happened along and I like it. I couldn't beat the price either! Covid-19 has made everyone here scared to talk in person. I never saw the owner, just messaged back and forth on FB Marketplace. I went to a garage next to an old house out in the country, loaded up the stove after looking it over, and left $15 in cash under a can on her garage workbench.... I'm just hoping I can get it in good shape before winter comes.
I was looking for a Warm Morning 400 or 460 but this stove just happened along and I like it. I couldn't beat the price either! Covid-19 has made everyone here scared to talk in person. I never saw the owner, just messaged back and forth on FB Marketplace. I went to a garage next to an old house out in the country, loaded up the stove after looking it over, and left $15 in cash under a can on her garage workbench.... I'm just hoping I can get it in good shape before winter comes.
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warminmn
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That price was awful cheap!
I have a bunch of stuff to put on FB but have been holding off. Its mostly just $20 stuff so not worth the risk at all. Ive heard some people are using paypal to do FB exchanges.
I have a bunch of stuff to put on FB but have been holding off. Its mostly just $20 stuff so not worth the risk at all. Ive heard some people are using paypal to do FB exchanges.
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vanguy
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 617A
- Coal Size/Type: bagged nut anthracite, bulk lump and stove bituminous
- Other Heating: Natural Gas Furnace
That is a LOT closer than anything I've found Holdencoal. Mine doesn't say Kenmore anywhere on it though. A small plate on the lower right front says "Sears Heating" but no other model name/number anywhere except the tag on the back. Do I have one of the rarest coal heaters on earth??
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vanguy
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Warminmn, I think if I'd of asked real nice...she would have given it to me. Sounded/looked like a younger woman who had never heated with anything other than the thermostat on the wall. She was friendly though! Ignorance is rampant now but not necessarily a character flaw. I think she was just glad to be rid of the old thing.... The garage had the remnants of an old pile of cordwood in the back corner and an iron homemade thing outside to stack wood on but no sign of any coal bin or place on the ground where a coal pile had once been. I doubt this one has ever tasted coal at all. I intend to remedy that!
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