Coal piling up and utilities can't burn it without losing money

Post by **ColdHouse** » Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 1:46 pm

my electric utility bill in December is over $600

Post by **waytomany?s** » Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 3:09 pm

ColdHouse wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 1:46 pm my electric utility bill in December is over $600

Why so high? No solar at all?

Post by **ColdHouse** » Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 3:21 pm

waytomany?s wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 3:09 pm Why so high? No solar at all?

Almost $0.21 per kWh just for delivery.

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Post by **waytomany?s** » Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 7:21 pm

ColdHouse wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 3:21 pm Almost $0.21 per kWh just for delivery.
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Damn! That's outrageous for delivery. Looking at adding more solar makes sense to me.

Post by **warminmn** » Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 8:01 pm

Wow. That amount of power would cost me just a little over $300 with everything including sales tax.

With me, its the monthly delivery fee and taxes equaling my electric usage most months as I only use 300KW on average, so I end out with over 30 cents per KW.

As more people add solar they will probably raise their delivery charges to make up for less power being sold.

Post by **waytomany?s** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 4:41 pm

Low Prices Drive China’s Coal Imports to Record High in 2024
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Post by **ColdHouse** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 4:57 pm

warminmn wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 8:01 pm Wow. That amount of power would cost me just a little over $300 with everything including sales tax.

With me, its the monthly delivery fee and taxes equaling my electric usage most months as I only use 300KW on average, so I end out with over 30 cents per KW.

As more people add solar they will probably raise their delivery charges to make up for less power being sold.

I don't know all the logistics. My Electric Supplier in Connecticut does not produce energy and you can choose who you want to supply your electricity. The electric company does the delivery.

Post by **Rob R.** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 5:59 pm

warminmn wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 09, 2025 8:01 pm As more people add solar they will probably raise their delivery charges to make up for less power being sold.

I had not considered that - but it makes sense. Less kWh delivered, so the cost of the grid gets spread over fewer units.

Post by **Lightning** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 6:31 pm

Almost 2000kw for the month seems like a lot.. what are you running that draws so much power?

Post by **waytomany?s** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 6:55 pm

Lightning wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 6:31 pm Almost 2000kw for the month seems like a lot.. what are you running that draws so much power?

A Tesla as a daily driver for his wife.

Post by **Lightning** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:26 pm

waytomany?s wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 6:55 pm A Tesla as a daily driver for his wife.

Are you kidding?

Post by **waytomany?s** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:44 pm

Lightning wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:26 pm Are you kidding?

I don't know if that's the large amount of use. But yeah, I would assume it's a large part.

Post by **waytomany?s** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:53 pm

Lightning wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:26 pm Are you kidding?

Now you got me thinking. Even with some rough calculations, the Tesla would only be around a third of the bill. And that's guessing 50 miles per day.

Post by **Rob R.** » Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:59 pm

waytomany?s wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 13, 2025 8:44 pm I don't know if that's the large amount of use. But yeah, I would assume it's a large part.

I use that much and don’t have an EV. Dehumidifiers in the summer and electric heat in the winter are the main drivers for me.