Mitsubishi mini split install and thoughts after 5 months of usage

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hank2 wrote: Wed. Jan. 08, 2025 2:18 am Smitty, if I'm reading your bill correctly, looks like you are paying $.1933/kwh. bottom line?
$165.10 for 854 kwh? If that's right, then I am paying a good bit more in Pa. and we don't have some of the extra charges on your bill. Or is this just the distribution part of the bill? Not that it doesn't smell bad.
0.38 cents per kWh is the TOTAL cost of electricity here - distribution and generation combined. Generation alone is 0.16 cents. The fees, thanks to this communist bastion, are the rest.

Bill total was almost $300.

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franpipeman wrote: Tue. Jan. 07, 2025 9:04 am if you let the free market work according to pure definition. rural areas would have no electricity .FDR ( Franklin Delano Roosevelt ) and the Rural Electric Administration coerced the spread of electricficationin many rural areas of the nation . Electrical Co ops you see today in rural areas are the result of the REA.
http://www.greatachievements.org/?id=2990
In 2021 Congress authorized a 41 billion dollar initiative to bring broadband to rural areas. So far they have connected 0 people, that's not a typo, the number is 0. Instead of pushing the service to the people they used it to push an agenda for DEI, climate change, price controls etc. If you drew up a wish list of progressive policies they included it.

The government has no accountability and programs like this meant to serve the public only serve the people running it.

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Come visit my area of pa south heidelberg township a rural area serviced by blue ridge cable. they have run the entire township with underground conduit ( where required) and it is for high speed internet . Next step the cable crews are coming in i anticipate in spring the fiber optic cable and home connection will occur .

ps they severed the underground phone line and it took two weeks for verizon to come and fix it .
things take time Government is like a huge ship it doesn't turn on a dime. its hard to get fiber optic underground without conduit.

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So in 2009 your power was 62% nat gas and nuclear...

Now its 59% so that's what increased your bill ?...

Coal is a small part of your supply...

Blame the nat gas a nat gas and nuclear...

What were your delivery charge back then?

That is where the big increases are....

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franpipeman wrote: Wed. Jan. 08, 2025 9:05 am Come visit my area of pa south heidelberg township a rural area serviced by blue ridge cable. they have run the entire township with underground conduit ( where required) and it is for high speed internet . Next step the cable crews are coming in i anticipate in spring the fiber optic cable and home connection will occur .
Without looking it up they were granted a monopoly on the cable service and it may be subsidized by the Universal Service fee charge everyone see on their phone bill. The monopoly makes sense in rural areas in the past because two competing providers would cut each other throats and may not want to make the initial investment. Works out for the consumers as whole because the contract for exclusivity also dictates they provide service to everyone , they can't just pick the low hanging fruit along a main road.

That said If you are going to take advantage of the benefits of living in rural area you also need to accept the disadvantages. Today services like Starlink are available to anyone in these areas so there is no need continue with this practice of subsidizing service. It's more than double the cost but that will come down in the future. If anything when you are subsidizing traditional services with ground based infrastructure you are hindering expansion of satellite and 5g cell service into these areas that would lower costs as more people use the service.
ps they severed the underground phone line and it took two weeks for verizon to come and fix it .
Probably servicing a copper line. They don't give a *censored* and are providing the users a reason to stop the service. They want to get rid of it.
Government is like a huge ship it doesn't turn on a dime.


They are slow because there is no accountability, they are giving themselves job security. The bureaucracy will milk the taxpayer for every dime they can get.

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BigBarney wrote: Wed. Jan. 08, 2025 4:37 pm So in 2009 your power was 62% nat gas and nuclear...

Now its 59% so that's what increased your bill ?...

Coal is a small part of your supply...

Blame the nat gas a nat gas and nuclear...

What were your delivery charge back then?

That is where the big increases are....

BigBarney
Read the bill he provided Barney, there is $50 in charges related to renewable/green energy programs.

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BigBarney wrote: Wed. Jan. 08, 2025 4:37 pm So in 2009 your power was 62% nat gas and nuclear...

Now its 59% so that's what increased your bill ?...

Coal is a small part of your supply...

Blame the nat gas a nat gas and nuclear...

What were your delivery charge back then?

That is where the big increases are....

BigBarney
59% was 2015. If you read my post you'd see that I don't have a current list at the moment -- waiting for my next bill to arrive any minute now. Should be an updated list in there.

Today, it's mostly GREEN energy - that, and all the B/S subsidies for more green crap are why MA has some of the highest electric rates in the NATION. The state FORCED us AND the electric company to pay for green crap - guess who ends up paying for THAT?!?

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