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k-2 wrote: Tue. Jun. 18, 2024 12:10 pm I just got new dryer and im sorry i didnt get a HP dryer. Regular vented dryers use a lot of power and many time have to do more time as the clothes are not altogether dry. The combination washer and dryers would not work well for us a we do a lot of laundry with 2 kids at home. Nice to be able to wash and dry at the same time.
I hear you, I remember what it was like to have a wife and daughters in the house... oh my, the laundry pile!

Now we are empty-nesters and the wife is obsessive about clothes. I have enough clothing to swamp a battleship but really could get by with one set of clothing practically. I come home from work and most days it goes straight into the washer. The next morning its washed and dried and I could literally where the same clothes the next day all cleaned. Because we wash our clothes worn on any given day, our laundry loads are super SMALL.

Don't get me wrong though. Washing takes about 20minutes. Drying takes 40 minutes. Folding and putting away takes about 10-14 business days! :-)

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Rob R. wrote: Tue. Jun. 18, 2024 5:51 am Propane dryers work great. I regret not running a gas line to our current laundry room when we remodeled the room below. We have a full bath on the main floor that only needs to be a half bath, I would like to install a washer and dryer wheeler the current tub/shower is but I will have to get creative with the venting.
Can you get a new heap pump washer dryer? They have no venting requirements at all, are only one machine to do both washing and drying, and only require a 120 volt standard outlet. The trade off is they take longer to dry (up too 3 hours) and you cannot just wash, or just dry.

But not to steer you from your ideas on gas dryers. I once hooked one up to a gas grill propane tank (20 pounds) and it would go about a month with a six person house. That is really NOTHING for propane consumption.

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BrokenGrate wrote: Wed. Jun. 19, 2024 3:11 am I hear you, I remember what it was like to have a wife and daughters in the house... oh my, the laundry pile!

Now we are empty-nesters and the wife is obsessive about clothes. I have enough clothing to swamp a battleship but really could get by with one set of clothing practically. I come home from work and most days it goes straight into the washer. The next morning its washed and dried and I could literally where the same clothes the next day all cleaned. Because we wash our clothes worn on any given day, our laundry loads are super SMALL.

Don't get me wrong though. Washing takes about 20minutes. Drying takes 40 minutes. Folding and putting away takes about 10-14 business days! :-)
I thought that was just my son. :D


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Richard S. wrote: Tue. Jun. 18, 2024 5:44 am Just be aware they need heated space, it's the same thing with the heat pump hot water heaters. A closet is not ideal and minimally they need a vented door. If it's in a small enclosure the efficiency goes out the window because it's trying to extract heat from air it keeps making colder. If it's in a bedroom it's going to drop the temperature a few degrees which is great with this type of weather. ;)
I have a heat pump water heater in my basement. It is not ideal condition because it is never hot in that area. It is kinda in an enclosure. I put it where the indirect heater was along with all the plumbing.
I had the thought of putting in two of these heaters. One in the upstairs, maybe even in the new walk in closet and the other where I put the one I already have. In summer just flip a couple of ball valves and have the one in the upstairs heat the water and cool my space. In winter use the one in the basement.
My ambition has not been sparked because it seems I have other projects that rate higher on the priority list.

With that said, I have ample hot water for the 4 people that live here and have never taken the appliance out of heat pump mode. The kWh required to run the appliance is negligible. We have 5 extra people visiting and staying here. I don't think anything other than an on demand heater would accommodate 9 people.

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When the price of pro-pain climbed to the ridiculous, I started hanging up my clothes to dry.

Found I gained a few things.

Money not being burned up in a dyer. Haven't filled the pro-pain tank in more than ten years.

Adds needed moisture in the house in dry-air winter. No need to run a humidifier and less dry skin and raspatory problems.

And my clothes last longer instead of ending up in the lint trap of the dryer. Only need a few minutes tumbled on no heat setting to soften any clothes needing it.

It's a bit more time but so is the amount of time needed to make the money to pay for expensive pro-pain. And with only using it to no-heat tumble the cloths for a few minutes the dryer has lasted over 25 years now.

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ColdHouse wrote: Thu. Jun. 20, 2024 9:20 am It is kinda in an enclosure.
When I say enclosure what I'm referring to is closet or even a small enclosed room, especially if that room has no heat. An open basement wouldn't fall into that category but a laundry room might.
maybe even in the new walk in closet


Minimally the doors should be vented. These units rob heat from the air, if warmer air is not circulating into the area it will just keep making the air colder and the colder it gets the less efficient they are.


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BrokenGrate wrote: Wed. Jun. 19, 2024 3:11 am

Don't get me wrong though. Washing takes about 20minutes. Drying takes 40 minutes. Folding and putting away takes about 10-14 business days! :-)
Dont buy more clothes baskets that just delays the folding and putting away longer.

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k-2 wrote: Thu. Jun. 20, 2024 5:02 pm Dont buy more clothes baskets that just delays the folding and putting away longer.
Clothes baskets?

We just throw them in a heap on the closet floor and then paw through them as we need them!! :D

I admit we are kind of lazy. We have a tiny, tiny kitchen (12 x 12) but put in two dishwashers so that we don't have to put dishes away. We take the clean dishes out of one dishwasher, use them, then put them back in the other one. When that gets full, we run it and then start taking the dishes out of that one.

We found we typically use the same plates and cups over again for most days, and honestly do not cook much at home. In a given week we might cook 2 meals at home, the rest of the time we eat out. With only two people its actually cheaper to eat out than eat at home.

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BrokenGrate wrote: Fri. Jun. 21, 2024 3:45 am Clothes baskets?

We just throw them in a heap on the closet floor and then paw through them as we need them!! :D

I admit we are kind of lazy. We have a tiny, tiny kitchen (12 x 12) but put in two dishwashers so that we don't have to put dishes away. We take the clean dishes out of one dishwasher, use them, then put them back in the other one. When that gets full, we run it and then start taking the dishes out of that one.

We found we typically use the same plates and cups over again for most days, and honestly do not cook much at home. In a given week we might cook 2 meals at home, the rest of the time we eat out. With only two people its actually cheaper to eat out than eat at home.

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Sunny Boy wrote: Thu. Jun. 20, 2024 10:04 am When the price of pro-pain climbed to the ridiculous, I started hanging up my clothes to dry.

Found I gained a few things.

Money not being burned up in a dyer. Haven't filled the pro-pain tank in more than ten years.

Adds needed moisture in the house in dry-air winter. No need to run a humidifier and less dry skin and raspatory problems.

And my clothes last longer instead of ending up in the lint trap of the dryer. Only need a few minutes tumbled on no heat setting to soften any clothes needing it.

It's a bit more time but so is the amount of time needed to make the money to pay for expensive pro-pain. And with only using it to no-heat tumble the cloths for a few minutes the dryer has lasted over 25 years now.

Paul
Good points on the benefits of "passive" drying.

For years I have been seeing you refer to LP as "pro-pain" and often wondered why the price is so horrendous in your area. If you only use a tiny amount that would explain it, as you are paying for the service over very few gallons. For cooking and limited use of the dryer you could setup a pair of RV tanks with a switchover regulator and probably cut your cost in half. 100 lb tanks last longer, but they are a lot to handle vs. a 20-30 lb tank in a milk crate.

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