Are we going to heat with coal???

 
waytomany?s
Member
Posts: 3747
Joined: Fri. Aug. 16, 2019 3:02 pm
Location: Oneida, N.Y.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harmon Mark II
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Looking
Baseburners & Antiques: Looking
Coal Size/Type: Nut
Other Heating: newmac wood/coal combo furnace

Post by waytomany?s » Mon. May. 22, 2023 9:03 pm

Aashi wrote:
Mon. May. 22, 2023 2:33 pm
Hi friend
It's true that rising prices of various heating fuels can be challenging. Exploring alternative options like modern heat pumps might offer more cost-effective and efficient heating solutions. Hearing different perspectives can help make informed decisions.[color=#FFFFFFF]Networth[/color]
Ok, what is your perspective?


 
User avatar
oliver power
Member
Posts: 2970
Joined: Sun. Apr. 16, 2006 9:28 am
Location: Near Dansville, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-2310), D.S. 1600 Circulator, Hitzer 254

Post by oliver power » Tue. May. 23, 2023 10:00 pm

I was talking to a friend of mine in the heating business. He recommended not making any sudden moves, and to ride it out. It's kind of what I'm doing, and will probably heat next year with coal again. Hopefully prices drop some so that I don't feel like I've been raped.

 
k-2
Member
Posts: 1744
Joined: Thu. Sep. 28, 2017 10:57 am
Location: Coal Township Pa
Stoker Coal Boiler: K2- Keystoker
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker Stove
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Post by k-2 » Wed. May. 24, 2023 9:21 am

oliver power wrote:
Tue. May. 23, 2023 10:00 pm
I was talking to a friend of mine in the heating business. He recommended not making any sudden moves, and to ride it out. It's kind of what I'm doing, and will probably heat next year with coal again. Hopefully prices drop some so that I don't feel like I've been raped.
Im not removing my coal boiler just yet but just giving it a "time out" for awhile. Ill do gas next season and then compare.

 
User avatar
davidmcbeth3
Member
Posts: 8505
Joined: Sun. Jun. 14, 2009 2:31 pm
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra

Post by davidmcbeth3 » Wed. May. 24, 2023 11:07 am

k-2 wrote:
Wed. May. 24, 2023 9:21 am
Im not removing my coal boiler just yet but just giving it a "time out" for awhile. Ill do gas next season and then compare.
You have a natural gas heater/furnace installed now in addition to the coal boiler ? Easy switch then

 
k-2
Member
Posts: 1744
Joined: Thu. Sep. 28, 2017 10:57 am
Location: Coal Township Pa
Stoker Coal Boiler: K2- Keystoker
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker Stove
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Post by k-2 » Wed. May. 24, 2023 11:58 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote:
Wed. May. 24, 2023 11:07 am
You have a natural gas heater/furnace installed now in addition to the coal boiler ? Easy switch then
In the process, should be ready by fall.

 
User avatar
davidmcbeth3
Member
Posts: 8505
Joined: Sun. Jun. 14, 2009 2:31 pm
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra

Post by davidmcbeth3 » Wed. May. 24, 2023 1:20 pm

k-2 wrote:
Wed. May. 24, 2023 11:58 am
In the process, should be ready by fall.
Will the gas appliance also be a boiler where it ties into the current system so its an easy switch between the coal boiler v. nat. gas boiler using same hot water pipes? or a a furnace using force air ?

I have no NG available where I am at...so its a boiler/heating oil fuel or my Hitzer 503. I considered a coal boiler to hook up to the current piping system for hot water floor radiators but opted for the Hitzer 503 insert...wifey reasons (she did not want coal container in the basement).

 
User avatar
Retro_Origin
Member
Posts: 914
Joined: Sun. Feb. 21, 2021 7:46 pm
Location: Schuylkill county
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1957 Axeman Anderson 130
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat / Pea

Post by Retro_Origin » Wed. May. 24, 2023 5:55 pm

Is natural gas ever more expensive than coal? I always thought in a boiler compared to boiler situation it was much cheaper


 
k-2
Member
Posts: 1744
Joined: Thu. Sep. 28, 2017 10:57 am
Location: Coal Township Pa
Stoker Coal Boiler: K2- Keystoker
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker Stove
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Post by k-2 » Thu. May. 25, 2023 8:11 am

Installing Nat gas will make this house easier to sell. Not many folks using or wanting to use coal anymore.Were a dying breed. After a lifetime of owning over a dozen properties (at the same time) at 66 i want to sell everything.

 
User avatar
davidmcbeth3
Member
Posts: 8505
Joined: Sun. Jun. 14, 2009 2:31 pm
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra

Post by davidmcbeth3 » Thu. May. 25, 2023 11:31 am

k-2 wrote:
Thu. May. 25, 2023 8:11 am
Installing Nat gas will make this house easier to sell. Not many folks using or wanting to use coal anymore.Were a dying breed. After a lifetime of owning over a dozen properties (at the same time) at 66 i want to sell everything.
When selling the house I would sell the coal appliance all together .. people don't understand it and would be put off with it in the house.

 
k-2
Member
Posts: 1744
Joined: Thu. Sep. 28, 2017 10:57 am
Location: Coal Township Pa
Stoker Coal Boiler: K2- Keystoker
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker Stove
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Post by k-2 » Thu. May. 25, 2023 1:12 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:
Thu. May. 25, 2023 11:31 am
When selling the house I would sell the coal appliance all together .. people don't understand it and would be put off with it in the house.
Ill take it with me. Its very small. 400lbs. I can use it somewhere. If i end up in the country oil is usually the only option so i may need an alternative heat source.

 
User avatar
Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 25555
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Location: Central NY
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. May. 25, 2023 6:10 pm

Not just heat with coal, but you may want to cook with it too.

Our nutty NY governor wants to ban gas stoves and go all electric. And now Washington wants to get its nose under that tent.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-attack-bid ... 51751.html

Paul

 
Gian4
Member
Posts: 194
Joined: Thu. Feb. 24, 2011 9:27 am

Post by Gian4 » Mon. May. 29, 2023 11:29 am

2024 is our last chance to stop the crazy both in NY and the rest of America.

 
User avatar
davidmcbeth3
Member
Posts: 8505
Joined: Sun. Jun. 14, 2009 2:31 pm
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra

Post by davidmcbeth3 » Mon. May. 29, 2023 1:41 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Thu. May. 25, 2023 6:10 pm
Not just heat with coal, but you may want to cook with it too.

Our nutty NY governor wants to ban gas stoves and go all electric. And now Washington wants to get its nose under that tent.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-attack-bid ... 51751.html

Paul
NYC already made its building code to not have gas piping, yes ?

Is Sunny Boy going to file a civil suit to block any state-wide gas ban ?

Of course one might be able to heat with NG, just not through MG piping but by tanks. Hard to say w/o any actual legislation passed by Albany - I have not looked at the NYC building changes.

 
User avatar
Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 25555
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Location: Central NY
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. May. 29, 2023 4:02 pm

Do you have any idea how much of NY City is using "street gas" ?

No Sunny Boy is not. Sunny Boy heats and cooks with coal. No NG here, piped or tanked, and pro-pain price is as bad as fuel oil.

In Summer, I cook with my 5 cents a KWH electric. :D

Are you going to take legal action to remove all those middle-man charges to lower your very high electric rate ? :roll:

Paul

 
nut
Member
Posts: 1381
Joined: Wed. Aug. 28, 2019 1:54 pm
Location: NEPA
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glacier Bay
Coal Size/Type: nut
Other Heating: electric

Post by nut » Tue. May. 30, 2023 8:56 am

3 tons coming Saturday from Isaac. Going to give Sherman a try this year.


Post Reply

Return to “Hand Fired Coal Stoves & Furnaces Using Anthracite”