Kalamazoo colonial wood / coal stove

 
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Post by Polish58 » Wed. May. 11, 2022 8:34 pm

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Kalamazoo Colonial. Wood /coal



 
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Post by Polish58 » Wed. May. 11, 2022 8:36 pm

I finally got the darned pic in. I’ll take some more tomorrow

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. May. 12, 2022 9:42 am

I like how it looks like an everyday piece of furniture.


I had an oak icebox that look very much the same - except for the mica windows.

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Post by freetown fred » Thu. May. 12, 2022 10:55 am

Yep, outside looks REAL good--lookin fwd to more pix--inside, back, sides, etc. :) I had one of them thar ice boxes Paul--things were simpler!!

 
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Post by Polish58 » Thu. Jun. 02, 2022 9:00 pm

Well I have it partly broken down. It’s actually a bolted together stove and what I thought were cracks in the firebox are just seams that most likely just shrunk and the gap widened. I was going to weld the with products from muggy weld.com - make specialized rod just for cast products but I think I’ll continue to break it dow and reseal everything with high temp refractory cement. I’ll get some pic on here once I remember how I did it the last time

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Post by warminmn » Thu. Jun. 02, 2022 9:17 pm

I dont know if the maker used gaskets or sealer when they made it but thats probably what you should use. Cast iron does not bend and could need the seems for a little movement.

 
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Post by Polish58 » Thu. Jun. 02, 2022 10:16 pm

That’s what I thought. Better to allow it to expand then give it a reason to really crack. All in all it’s in amazingly good shape, I just need to be sure the draft control is what should be. All of the nuts a 1/4 -20 square head and I think I can drill them and pop them off with a cold chisel without much effort. Be sending out another update as I get more into it


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jun. 03, 2022 9:01 am

Most stoves used square nuts for a reason - they are less prone to loosen with the expansion/contraction of heat cycling.

With modern nuts, the corners don't contact the surface the nut is tightening against, so they need some type of lock washer to keep them from loosening. Lock washers don't do well in high-heat situations.

The old square nuts have sharp corners that help resist moving to loosen. A search of "square nuts " should find past threads on this topic where mention of a supplier of the old-style square nut is available. Or save the original nuts and "sharpen" the corners by lightly filing the underside with a mill file.

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Post by mntbugy » Fri. Jun. 03, 2022 1:54 pm

That crack in the back, at the fire bowl. Will need quality weld, "not" might be good for now. The metal probably has most of its life baked out of it, making it real hard to weld.

Line firepot with pourable refactory in a thin layer. Use an oblong/oval-shaped flower pot as a pattern. Pour refactory mix around firepot and flower pot. Let dry for a couple days. Then remove flower pot slowly and carefully.

 
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Post by Polish58 » Sun. Jun. 05, 2022 6:12 am

Thanks for the info!👍

 
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Post by Polish58 » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 1:03 am

Took another look and some more pics , I guess I’ll be ordering some “muggy weld“ rod

 
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Post by Polish58 » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 1:05 am

Photos of the back of the firebox. Looks to be the same in the front

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Post by mntbugy » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 7:34 am

You can try muggy weld. Looks like a previous cheap fix was tried.

Line the inside of firepot with pourable refactory, the pancake batter stuff at local hardware store. Or use ramset, pound it into shape, concrete looking stuff.
Comes in a 50 pound box for $80 plus shipping. So about $130ish.

Or send firepot to get recast, $$$$.

Any air leaks in that area, you won't be able to control low stove temps. You will only have high and super high.

Most times a cheap/free stove, is still not cheap enough. :what:

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 9:13 pm

mntbugy wrote:
Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 7:34 am
You can try muggy weld. Looks like a previous cheap fix was tried.

Line the inside of firepot with pourable refactory, the pancake batter stuff at local hardware store. Or use ramset, pound it into shape, concrete looking stuff.
Comes in a 50 pound box for $80 plus shipping. So about $130ish.

Or send firepot to get recast, $$$$.

Any air leaks in that area, you won't be able to control low stove temps. You will only have high and super high.

Most times a cheap/free stove, is still not cheap enough. :what:
I think that would be a great tattoo.

 
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Post by Polish58 » Sat. Jun. 18, 2022 4:40 pm

Well here’s more photos - got it 90% broke down. As I suspected the fire pot above the grates is two distinct separate casts. I think this was done this way for ease of shipping way back in the day. The stove is assembled in a spiral fashion if you will, as one piece ties into the next and so from bottom to top. It’s not cast iron but rather cast steel that I’m sure has brittles over time but I do intend to weld it into one piece as well as a couple other small cracks in the ash pan but other than that it’s in amazing shape for its age- grates move freely and are 100% there - nothing’s anywhere near burnt out. Now it’s a bit more prep and get ready to put the old girl back together

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