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Here is my theory. Most covid hospitalizations also had severe comorbidities. If you gave them something that could cure the covid, they would last longer. If they died sooner, you get the covid bucks faster. Morbid but probably true in some cases. You can't give it to one group and not the other so give it to neither.
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For those that think we "guys" don't have high enough standards of info sources, check out the creds of the people involved in Sen. Ron Johnson's recent round table investigation into the covid mess.
https://wsau.com/2022/01/26/senator-ron-johnson-s ... -on-covid/
Also very telling - scroll down to see the list of those that were invited but would not join in. I guess we'll just have to wait 75 years to hear their side of it ???
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https://wsau.com/2022/01/26/senator-ron-johnson-s ... -on-covid/
Also very telling - scroll down to see the list of those that were invited but would not join in. I guess we'll just have to wait 75 years to hear their side of it ???
Paul
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There is a lot that points to that not just being a theory.tsb wrote: ↑Wed. Jan. 26, 2022 11:53 amHere is my theory. Most covid hospitalizations also had severe comorbidities. If you gave them something that could cure the covid, they would last longer. If they died sooner, you get the covid bucks faster. Morbid but probably true in some cases. You can't give it to one group and not the other so give it to nether.
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I followed up on this with a little more reading. While VAERS did experience a large increase in "fake" reports as I had speculated, they have attempted to remove them from the VAERS data, which still show a large increase in reports from historical norms. This increase reflects such considerations as:Sunny Boy wrote: ↑Mon. Jan. 24, 2022 9:45 pmNot one official from the CDC has come out and said they don't trust the VAERS reports. Nor have they even hinted at ballot stuffing to get such incredibly high numbers. And if they did suspect such, it would be easy in the past two years for them to do something about it. That makes it far more factual than your doubts and puts any such claim squarely in the conspiracy (no proof) catigory.
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- the large increase in vaccination doses administered relative to historical norms;
- a tendency observed in the past (e.g., with HIV) for new vaccines to experience reporting levels higher than those of established vaccines for a period after their introduction; and,
- more stringent VAERS reporting requirements placed on health providers for vaccines administered under EUA's.
That last one is particularly significant because it means providers are supposed to report all kinds of adverse outcomes irrespective of their potential relationship to vaccines. As I understand it, this would mean a person vaccinated under a covid EUA who had, say, a heart attack a few months later would be entered in VAERS. Particularly with the early focus of vaccine distribution on elderly and other high-risk groups, it should not come as a surprise that there are many records in VAERS that reflect deaths of vaccinated individuals.
As clearly stated on page 3 of the VAERS Data Use Guide, though, no tabulation of VAERS data can prove that vaccines actually caused adverse outcomes reported in VAERS. This means the VAERS-based claims of the anti-vaxxers here are meaningless.
The causal linkage (if any) between outcomes reported in VAERS and vaccines is determined using the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) , which analyses the incidence rates of the adverse outcomes in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated groups. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/ ... index.html . AFAIK the anti-vaxxers have reported zero adverse outcomes that have a proven causal linkage to vaccines.
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SO why have a VAERS system? You think it is just for fun. Funny it spiked when the vaccines started....and when it showed even any problems in the past, they shut the vaccine in question down. This time....shhhhhh, the numbers lied... Yeah right.
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Here's your "covid misinformation".
Yahoo news headline story,* showing a picture of the horse version of ivermectin and claiming it is unproven, despite that there have been clinical studies showing that prove it does work. And not one mention of the billions of doses of safe use in humans since it came out 40years ago. Nor that it won a rare Nobel prize in medicine, and the WHO lists it as one of the world's most essential medicines.
https://wsau.com/2022/01/26/senator-ron-johnson-s ... -on-covid/
But there are still those deep in lamestream media induced denial. Which leads to the saying, what was the most washed body part during covid ? The brain.
* Yahoo news of a USA Today story.
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Yahoo news headline story,* showing a picture of the horse version of ivermectin and claiming it is unproven, despite that there have been clinical studies showing that prove it does work. And not one mention of the billions of doses of safe use in humans since it came out 40years ago. Nor that it won a rare Nobel prize in medicine, and the WHO lists it as one of the world's most essential medicines.
https://wsau.com/2022/01/26/senator-ron-johnson-s ... -on-covid/
But there are still those deep in lamestream media induced denial. Which leads to the saying, what was the most washed body part during covid ? The brain.
* Yahoo news of a USA Today story.
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Without the jab,...... 99 % chance of surviving covid and zero percent chance of a problem from the jabs. I like those odds.
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Gee you should send that link to FDA. They issued this last month - https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/wh ... t-covid-19 . Ivermectin is in clinical trials, but has not been approved or authorized for use vs covid.
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Notice no proof of numbers of "fakes" given.
And more importantly, as you point out, the highly pro-jab CDC has seen fit to keep VAERS going even when it is extremally counter to their jabs push because it shows an incredible increase in adverse events,..... that is still increasing.
Really shoots holes in any attempt to discredit the massive spike in VAERS as just a bunch of fakes.
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Not my problem that the left hand don’t know what the right hands doing (FDA & NIH).
It was the NIH.gov link...pages back. Help yourself.
It was the NIH.gov link...pages back. Help yourself.
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To heck with this article...any comments on the CDC’s release of information yesterday that this article refers to?Hoytman wrote: ↑Tue. Jan. 25, 2022 9:24 pmhttps://www.foxnews.com/us/omicron-causes-less-se ... -cdc-study
The first few lines of the article says all you need to know and have been arguing against. Hard to deny less serious health effects, less time spent in the hospital, and less death.
I doubt it, because that shuts down the basis for all your posts. Correlates directly with what Kevin stated earlier...
...the bodies are not stacking up ... and if you truly think they are then you better find out what else they died from because just yesterday the CDC contradicted every post you’ve made in the last several days...spreading your doom and gloom.
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