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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Jul. 31, 2020 11:16 pm

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Not sure where 6 or 7 months are coming from...4.5 months would be more in line with when testing started. The article does state that 44,663 recovered out of the 65592 positives.
“...44,663 ‘presumed’ recovered out of the 65,559 positives.”

“Presumed” meaning they don’t know...so it sounds like someone doesn’t want us to really know how many has recovered.


I’m sure where the 6-7 months came from...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/co ... utType=amp


By the way, another link for positive cases for Ohioans has the number over 100,000. I’ll leave the discrepancy to anyone willing to look for it. By the way...Ohio population 11mill +.
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Post by gaw » Fri. Jul. 31, 2020 11:25 pm

freetown fred wrote:
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Test results back already---"NOT DETECTED" Soooo, on with surgery Wed AM.
See, I told you that putting a Biden sticker on the truck would get you to pass the test.

Hope it all goes well Wednesday.

 
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Post by johnjoseph » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 5:50 am

Hoytman wrote:
Fri. Jul. 31, 2020 11:16 pm
“...44,663 ‘presumed’ recovered out of the 65,559 positives.”

“Presumed” meaning they don’t know...so it sounds like someone doesn’t want us to really know how many has recovered.


I’m sure where the 6-7 months came from...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/co ... utType=amp


By the way, another link for positive cases for Ohioans has the number over 100,000. I’ll leave the discrepancy to anyone willing to look for it. By the way...Ohio population 11mill +.
Presumed is based on mathematical probability for a rate of recovery that is consistent with the known recovery ratio. No, its not a hardcore fact, but in that case, neither article posted are 100% factual as evidenced by the differing numbers presented.

11+million in population is a presumptive number as well; we haven't had a census since 2010. So, in fact the whole subject is based on probability of which each person may be skeptical as evidenced by differing opinions presented throughout the entire thread.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 10:43 am

Going to make this real simple for you...

“Mass testing” in this state, according to one link, has been closer to 5 months...beginning around March 8. August 8th will be closer to 5 months than 4.5 if you’re wanting to knit-pick numbers.

One link shows that “early tests” proved cases all the way back to early January...6-7 months as I stated earlier.

Census or not, 11+million, or not, will barely move the percentage of “current” cases, “current” hospitalizations, and the death rate.

“Current” case reporting was the point of my earlier post, not some census or presumptions. The state first, then the media need to start giving current information instead of spreading lies and fear based on old and total cases where an over-whelming majority of people have gotten over this virus. I think it could safely be said that more have unknowingly gotten over it, than those who have been tested...statewide AND nation wide.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 10:46 am

I provided links. Never made any claim to them being facts. I based my statements from those links. If you don’t like them, then find your own facts and show us how much the needle is moving based on the “current” numbers you find. I doubt if you can find the percentage to change by more than .5% based on “current active cases”. That means, those that have it, not those that probably have it.

Reporting a “probable” only to get a negative is nothing but deception. Want to report them, then fine, but show a chart all it’s own and stop lumping the numbers together. “Probables” by thousands are huge mistakes...even lies...meant to spread fear.
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Post by johnjoseph » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 10:54 am

Here's something simple: it's all based on presumptive information, not fact. My point of presenting census demographics was to show that even a loss or gain of 1 million people will change all the presumptuous information.

Lies and fear are even being condoned and presented by you your self. Don't overextend yourself to prove your point; I've made mine pretty clear.

 
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Post by gaw » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 11:31 am

Three new obituaries this week on the local funeral home website. They didn't die of COVID but they are indeed dead.

 
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Post by tsb » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 12:20 pm

In Maine, selling weed is illegal but it's legal to have and use. So there are these guys who run a "psychic" location service and for a fee they will find your lost weed and deliver it to you.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 1:14 pm

tsb wrote:
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In Maine, selling weed is illegal but it's legal to have and use. So there are these guys who run a "psychic" location service and for a fee they will find your lost weed and deliver it to you.
Thinkin' outside the box, I like it!...
Ma has some good daily reports available...
Lets you kinda see the 'actual data' but still many * on when data sets change...
Our 7 day weighted positivity rate is creepin' up...
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-respon ... -reporting
School is already pushed back opening by 2 weeks...
Teachers union not Corona related...
Yet...
If the rates and case numbers keep rising...
School is going to be remote...

 
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Post by johnjoseph » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 3:05 pm

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Going back to work. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nj-gym- ... doors-raw/
I'm wondering how they're going to secure the equipment so it isn't stolen by rioters. I ask because the clip states they took the doors off and then authorities boarded it up.

 
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Post by cabinover » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 4:11 pm

What the hell would rioters want with gym equipment? "Here you go Tanashika, I got you a Peloton for Kwanzaa!" :roll:

 
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Post by johnjoseph » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 4:28 pm

cabinover wrote:
Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 4:11 pm
What the hell would rioters want with gym equipment? "Here you go Tanashika, I got you a Peloton for Kwanzaa!" :roll:
Of course Shaniqua and Antoine could have a little insight and be part of a riot, steal the gym equipment and sell it for a profit. Utilize a little common sense on how criminals work and you might just understand my point rather than roll your eyes....hell, I'm more remote than you are in Vermont and understand the concept of theft and resale.😉🙂😁

 
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Post by bambooboy » Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 6:18 pm

cabinover wrote:
Sat. Aug. 01, 2020 4:11 pm
What the hell would rioters want with gym equipment? "Here you go Tanashika, I got you a Peloton for Kwanzaa!" :roll:
funny,but won't say anymore. :whistle: :whistle:


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