use bituminous coal in anthracite stokers

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Post by RedDevil » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 7:26 pm

New here and probably an old ongoing question. I cannot find any new integrated stoker/furnace/boilers that use bituminous or sub/bit coal. I grew up burning Utah/Wyoming Bit or sub/bit coal both lump and the one size only stoker coal in Idaho. I have lived in the NE for the past 40 years and am also very familiar with burning anthracite coal from Pennsy. I am moving to North Dakota and know I can get Wyoming stoker coal quite cheaply per ton. I can also get ND lignite although I have no experience in using it. My question: are there really any stoker units (boiler/hot air/fireplace inserts) designed for anthracite that can burn bituminous or sub/bit. I can get an easy and cheap supply of either Wyoming stoker (not sure if bit or sub/bit) or very cheap ND lignite. I am quite aware of the different BTU, clinkering, coking, etc of all of them. Tired of hand-bombing and hope to find a stoker unit that works ok. Thanks for any help or input. Amazed at the knowledge of so many of you that I've read over the years. Excellent. Thanks.

 
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Post by RedDevil » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 7:55 pm

Any stoker units designed for anthracite that can burn western bituminous or sub/bit. or even lignite? Stoker boiler/furnace/fire place inserts?

 
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Post by McGiever » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 8:22 pm

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Post by warminmn » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 8:44 pm

There is someone building boilers specifically for lignite somewhere near the Center ND lignite mine. If you cant find it online the people at the mine can likely tell you. I know nothing else about it at this time.

Its really a no brainer to burn lignite if you are near those mines. $41/ton vs 300/ton for anthracite or possibly more in ND. Its doubtful those mines will close anytime soon as the air quality in ND is some of the best so no restrictions on power plants there, or not much.

 
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Post by RedDevil » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 9:14 pm

Thanks for the replies. I can get lignite for 45-50/ton and Wyoming bit stoker for 65/70/ton from Minot. I don’t want to spend a bunch of money for expensive eastern anthracite burners if they won’t burn bit. I’ve seen all the YOUTUBE things I can find of ESMs and others burning bit. But cannot font anything conclusive as if it actually works or not

 
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Post by RedDevil » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 9:17 pm

I’m more worried about them actually able to burn it without physical damage or other worries than being as efficient than what they are designed for


 
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Post by RedDevil » Sun. Mar. 01, 2020 9:21 pm

Most of the anthracite burners are designed for pea or rice coal. Can’t normally get bit in anything other than standard stoker size. Could cause all sorts of hell. Just asking

 
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Post by lzaharis » Mon. Mar. 02, 2020 12:09 am

Go to you tube and look for the twentyacrefarm.com videos or type in AHS S130 stoker. He is using an AHS S130 to heat his home and make his hot water using Montana sub bituminous coal in stoker size. The mine he buys it from is ten miles+- from his house. The shallow mined Coal from Wyoming is Sub Bituminous coal.

 
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Post by bksaun » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 11:15 am

I had success burning KY bit in a Gentleman Janitor for several years, BUT!!!! The key to it was the proper size coal, I had a supplier able to screen 3/4" coal and it worked well. he sold out and I wasn't able to get that size from anyone else, so I tried 1-1/2" and the fun began, shear pins broken augers ect ect, then I tried slack and it fed ok but couldn't get air through it, so burned up a very expensive grate.
So now I have a Heritage hand fired that burns anything the will fit through the door and the Gentleman Janitor is sitting in the barn. no market around here for it. so just think it through before you dive in. anytime you use equipment beyond its intended capabilities problems will arise.

 
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Post by RedDevil » Fri. Apr. 24, 2020 9:25 am

Warminmn do you have any experience in burning lignite? What kind of bit do you use. Thanks.

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