Does anyone have the HITZER 254?
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Wondering if the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95 .
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Champion stoves has gotten back to me. Yes, the back wall of the 254 firebox is slanted just like the 30-95.oliver power wrote: ↑Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:15 pmWondering if the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95 .
So I see no advantage of buying a 254, other than NOT seeing the hopper through the front load door, which is not a big deal.
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Fire375, Are you sure you're not thinking of the 354??? The 354 would be more like the 50-93.
The 254 would be more of the 30-95 size. However, the 254 does not have a hopper. So no real need for slanted back wall. That's why I asked. I didn't know. Dealer said 254 was slanted just like the 30-95.
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Scott, for whatever it's worth the 254 also has a slightly larger firebox than the 30-95. It's 13 inches deep vs 12 on the 30-95. At least that's what the ad said the last I looked.
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Thanks Jim, That answers why the 254 is rated to heat more square footage than the 30-95. It's the reason I questioned the slanted firebox to begin with. I was thinking it must have a bigger firebox. Turns out it does......... Still, I'd like to find out for fact whether or not the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95. I'll send Dean an e-mail, then reply to this post.
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I Thank You Fire375...
That looks like a nice little stove. I see it's brand new. Are you a dealer? Are you able to show / explain the internal damper set up? Other than no hopper, I can see the 254 being a step above the 30-95, which is a GREAT little stove. No complaints about the 30-95 performance. However, the 254, with it's dual grates (non turbo effect), and straight fire box side walls would not create clinkers like the 30-95 when run hard. The way the air / fuel mixture (Ball of Fire) comes off the 30-95's single grate, reminds me of a turbo torch. And when running hard, it will fuse ash together, creating clinkers.
For anyone reading this, when I talk about the 30-95 running hard, I'm talking about letting the little stove push itself beyond it's normal rated operating capacity. I don't think the 30-95 knows it's a small stove, and would push itself to self destruct.
That looks like a nice little stove. I see it's brand new. Are you a dealer? Are you able to show / explain the internal damper set up? Other than no hopper, I can see the 254 being a step above the 30-95, which is a GREAT little stove. No complaints about the 30-95 performance. However, the 254, with it's dual grates (non turbo effect), and straight fire box side walls would not create clinkers like the 30-95 when run hard. The way the air / fuel mixture (Ball of Fire) comes off the 30-95's single grate, reminds me of a turbo torch. And when running hard, it will fuse ash together, creating clinkers.
For anyone reading this, when I talk about the 30-95 running hard, I'm talking about letting the little stove push itself beyond it's normal rated operating capacity. I don't think the 30-95 knows it's a small stove, and would push itself to self destruct.
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Oliver, yes I do sell the Hitzer brand. In my honest opinion the 254 is a very underrated stove. It is a heating machine for its size. Sure it doesnt have a hopper but if you bank the coal up to the top of the firebrick in the back the tending time is near that of the 30-95 that has the hopper. The hopper does make it easier to just dump the coal in but me personally i dont mind shoveling it in the front door. The 254 is a very nice coal stove and I believe deserves more credit.oliver power wrote: ↑Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 8:55 amI Thank You Fire375...
That looks like a nice little stove. I see it's brand new. Are you a dealer? Are you able to show / explain the internal damper set up? Other than no hopper, I can see the 254 being a step above the 30-95, which is a GREAT little stove. No complaints about the 30-95 performance. However, the 254, with it's dual grates (non turbo effect), and straight fire box side walls would not create clinkers like the 30-95 when run hard. The way the air / fuel mixture (Ball of Fire) comes off the 30-95's single grate, reminds me of a turbo torch. And when running hard, it will fuse ash together, creating clinkers.
For anyone reading this, when I talk about the 30-95 running hard, I'm talking about letting the little stove push itself beyond it's normal rated operating capacity. I don't think the 30-95 knows it's a small stove, and would push itself to self destruct.
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My coal dealer is also a Hitzer dealer. I check out the various models in his shop each time I pickup coal. I love the looks of them and would kill for a nice window view of my fire over my solid cast furnace door. He said he fires a different model each year in his shop to experience all the model's unique attributes. Last year was a 55UL stove and this year is a 354.
My dealer always speaks highly of the 254 and 354 models, especially if you plan to burn wood also.
Can you get 12-16 hour burns with a full load in the 254, at moderate heat output?
My dealer always speaks highly of the 254 and 354 models, especially if you plan to burn wood also.
Can you get 12-16 hour burns with a full load in the 254, at moderate heat output?
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N, don't know much about either except HITZER makes one of the best. With my 50-93 on idle, hell, I've burnt 4 straight days & been able to re-coup the fire.
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i had the 354 for ten yrs burnt good hard wood/bit and ant, in it in a ranch home full basement and never had an issue with at all !!!! dam good stove !! and she threw the heat .
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Dean Had gotten back to me. He described the firebox. A little late; as Fire375 already answered the firebox question. However, Dean did say the internal damper of the 254 restricts exhaust flow (only on fan model). The non-fan model; the knob at upper front center is a dummy knob.