Warm Morning safe install in garage
- LBrookm
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In my limited experience, you just have to remove the baffle / heat shield inside the stove above the bricks and they lift out. They are not a super tight fit but ash that has built up in the joints will make it seem so. It's the angles in which the bricks are formed that support each other against the sides. You may have to scratch some of that ash out from between the bricks to get things started loosening. As they are removed be careful adjacent bricks don't fall (as some will want to especially the flat ones) and get damaged. I would keep track of the order of removal just so at reinstall any "too stubborn to remove without damage" deposits that have formed on the brick will match back up.
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those are good close up pics but, move out alittle bit more so we get some perspective.
at this point i'd say no big deal, not worth the effort and risk of damage to others.
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steve
at this point i'd say no big deal, not worth the effort and risk of damage to others.
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steve
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Thanks for both replies.
Hopefully, these will be better.
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Hopefully, these will be better.
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- hotblast1357
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Just run it.
Put some fire cement over the cracks if your that worried about it.
Put some fire cement over the cracks if your that worried about it.
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Not sure if I'm worried, HB1357.
I don't know enough to be worried or not worried.
Just want to be safe and not burn my building down.
But, that may be a good suggestion.
I don't know enough to be worried or not worried.
Just want to be safe and not burn my building down.
But, that may be a good suggestion.
- hotblast1357
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Absolutely!
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i would run it as is in my house, honestly.
if anything i would take your angle grinder and open up all four of the formed gaps in the middle of the faces of the corner bricks.
clean out all the old ash and fire it up. we are all waiting to see the pics and reports on one of these actually running on Bit.
if anything i would take your angle grinder and open up all four of the formed gaps in the middle of the faces of the corner bricks.
clean out all the old ash and fire it up. we are all waiting to see the pics and reports on one of these actually running on Bit.
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Thank you for that assessment, KingCoal.i would run it as is in my house, honestly.
I'd like to move it with the bricks in by packing it so they don't move or fall out.
Looks like there is a band that holds them in which I didn't remove.
I don't suppose it would hurt to use the fire cement that HotBlast1357 suggested.
Hope to get it ready to fire within a few days.
I'm interested to see how much heat it will put out in my drafty old shop
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The bricks are designed to not move or come out unless you plan on rolling it end over end
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No need to pack the barrel?
I would intend to move it on a dolly?
Primarily upright
Thanks for your patience.
I would intend to move it on a dolly?
Primarily upright
Thanks for your patience.
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It's in the garage.
Now to get some pipe.
Should be going to Lowe's tomorrow.
Just have to figure out where I'm going to run the pipes
Now to get some pipe.
Should be going to Lowe's tomorrow.
Just have to figure out where I'm going to run the pipes
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I went to Lowe's today figuring I would get pipe for the install.
That was a waste of time.
The kid there knew less than I did.
You know how bad that is.
They didn't have much stuff there either.
Hoping to do this for less than $500.
Way less?
If you kind souls would indulge me again...
Preface-All adjacent surfaces will be fire-rated.
I'm concerned about piping; when I need double wall and can use single wall
From the top of the stove to the bottom of the rafters is 33".
I'd like to come out of the top of the stove with single wall pipe into an elbow.
From the ell to the wall is @30".
The wall is a 1" wood plank covered with shingles (guessing fiberglass)
Vertical 3' to the overhang and, maybe, 5' above the roof line.
Possibly, more, but that's irrelevant now.
How high can I come out of the stove before the elbow.
I need to get a damper in there somewhere.
All the through wall things are for much thicker walls.
Is the double wall black pipe for inside and the stainless (shiny) for outside?
As always, thank you.
Again
That was a waste of time.
The kid there knew less than I did.
You know how bad that is.
They didn't have much stuff there either.
Hoping to do this for less than $500.
Way less?
If you kind souls would indulge me again...
Preface-All adjacent surfaces will be fire-rated.
I'm concerned about piping; when I need double wall and can use single wall
From the top of the stove to the bottom of the rafters is 33".
I'd like to come out of the top of the stove with single wall pipe into an elbow.
From the ell to the wall is @30".
The wall is a 1" wood plank covered with shingles (guessing fiberglass)
Vertical 3' to the overhang and, maybe, 5' above the roof line.
Possibly, more, but that's irrelevant now.
How high can I come out of the stove before the elbow.
I need to get a damper in there somewhere.
All the through wall things are for much thicker walls.
Is the double wall black pipe for inside and the stainless (shiny) for outside?
As always, thank you.
Again
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- Other Heating: Propane Kerosene
Well, the chimney's up and hooked to the stove.
We got all the pieces and assembled for my chimney.
I found I was able to go with all single wall except through the wall.
I got a 12" piece of double wall that only requires 2" of clearance.
I hate single wall black pipe.
I ordered this for around the pipe going through the wall:
We got all the pieces and assembled for my chimney.
I found I was able to go with all single wall except through the wall.
I got a 12" piece of double wall that only requires 2" of clearance.
I hate single wall black pipe.
I ordered this for around the pipe going through the wall:
[/2" 2 inch Ceramic Insulation Blanket 8 Pound # 2400 Degrees! 24" x 24" x 2" plus CM-Ceramics Knife for Wood Stoves, Fireplaces, Inserts, Quadrafire and More. Morgan CeramicsUSA quote] from Amazon.
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This will get here Wednesday.
Have to add the shaker grate and doors and it's almost ready for fire.
Will take pics tomorrow because it was dark when we finished.
Need to add a little something on the ceiling, maybe, and, possibly to the walls.
I have 33" from the top of the stove and almost 18" from the top of the pipes.
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Gee, something must be holding up the pics i'm sure you loaded of this phase, at least "i" can't see 'em
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- Other Heating: Propane Kerosene
Temporary delay in production.
Photographer got stuck in traffic.
Or Senility or ADHD or a blond day.
Photographer got stuck in traffic.
Or Senility or ADHD or a blond day.