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Post by nepacoal » Thu. Nov. 08, 2018 5:39 pm

Just an FYI on starting it up... I used a BBQ chimney starter in my sf-260.

1. Put a 1" layer of anthracite coal to cover the entire grate area
2. Load a chimney starter with hardwood lump charcoal with newspaper in the bottom for lighting
3. Place on top of coal in center of grates and light.
4. Shut load door and let the lump charcoal get red hot.
5. Carefully pour out charcoal in center of grates and add a shovel of coal on top of charcoal
6. Let added coal catch fire and continue slowly adding coal until filled
7. Leave ash door open during this but never walk away with ash door open

Hardwood lump is key. Start to finish should take 30 to 45 minute s.


 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Thu. Nov. 08, 2018 5:54 pm

Gotcha, wood takes too long lol

 
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Post by Qtown1835 » Thu. Nov. 08, 2018 8:24 pm

Sylvesterd101 wrote:
Thu. Nov. 08, 2018 5:22 pm
Whats the airscoop?
The gray thing next to the green thing. :)

I don't see a fill valve?

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Thu. Nov. 08, 2018 8:56 pm

1/2" copper line under the green air scoop...

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 12:06 am

More pictures, unfortunately im no plumber so forgive me on not knowing a dang thing lol

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Post by Rob R. » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 5:45 am

Sylvesterd101 wrote:
Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 12:06 am
More pictures, unfortunately im no plumber so forgive me on not knowing a dang thing lol
Your installer has a lot to learn as well. By having that compression tank connected to the bottom of the airscoop with an air vent on top, the tank can't work correctly. It should be piped off the top of the airscoop, so all the air bubbles can go up into the expansion tank. The way it is now, the tank will flood with water.

Also, the motor on your circulator is facing up. It should be rotated 90 degrees so the motor & shaft is parallel with the ground.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:47 am

unions for the DHW coil connection...
So the coil can be pulled easily...


 
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Post by pintoplumber » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 8:02 am

I would have them come back and turn the circulator so the motor shaft is horizontal. Here’s a picture of the Taco instructions. They say you can have the motor up if your pressure is above 20 psi.

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 5:47 pm

Ill call them tomorrow to have them look at it and the info from you guys, it was keller in northampton, youd think for the price they would be perfect

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 5:57 pm

Well i just spoke with steve keller, and he assured me with information that everything is good and how it will work. Said the air was my buffer regarding the xpansion tank

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 5:58 pm

My water pressure is hovering at 50

 
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Post by pintoplumber » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:13 pm

Your relief valve is going to blow at 30 psi. We’re talking about boiler system pressure. You should be around 12 psi.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:19 pm

Yes, but that style of tank will not work like a bladder tank...

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:20 pm

pintoplumber wrote:
Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:13 pm
Your relief valve is going to blow at 30 psi. We’re talking about boiler system pressure. You should be around 12 psi.
Apparently not if it’s at 50! Lmao

Either he’s talking about his water pressure in his domestic lines, or he has an improper/defective PRV.

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Nov. 09, 2018 6:42 pm

Like i said not a plumber lol and a little drunk. I expressed everything you guys brought up as issues and assured me i have nothing to worry about, what should i do?

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