antique coal water heater
- freetown fred
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Now that makes sense P!! LOL
- BunkerdCaddis
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C'mon Fred you're a well read student of the mother tongue, you've got 22,000+ posts on here... From the M-W Dictionary Definition of farcicalfreetown fred wrote: ↑Mon. Feb. 26, 2018 7:21 amB, what the hell is a farcical????????????????? LOL
1 : of, relating to, or resembling farce : ludicrous
the farcical parts of comedies
2 : laughably inept : absurd farcical high jinks
- freetown fred
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Oh hell, THAT farcical!!!
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Nothing like a dangling participle!...
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Yeah, but sometimes it gets rock hard.
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The design heating load for my home is about 70,000 BTU/H. As we know, very rarely are we in "design" conditions. The new models made by DS are rated at 55,000 BTH/H. That would cover my heating load about 75% of the time. I have a modulating/condensing LP boiler, which this could supplement nicely. Further DS also makes a new model that is rated at 100,000 BTU/H if I choose to go that route.
Even if i purchase a new one, it seems an investment of $4,000 less than other boilers would be worth considering in my book. Especially for the chance to play around with my first coal-burning boiler, possibly upgrading down the road. That leaves much more $$$ for BOS components.
Even if i purchase a new one, it seems an investment of $4,000 less than other boilers would be worth considering in my book. Especially for the chance to play around with my first coal-burning boiler, possibly upgrading down the road. That leaves much more $$$ for BOS components.
Pacowy wrote: ↑Sun. Feb. 25, 2018 1:21 pmAren't both of those issues for anyone, like the OP, who seems to be drawn to these things because they are cheap relative to "a full boiler". Like Don pointed out, they are pretty limited in what they can do. My point was that even if you manage to push them harder so they burn more than "a bucket a day", you'll waste a lot of btu's doing so, and would be better off focusing on a unit designed to handle the actual load.
Mike
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It's not a big trick to save up-front money by trying to heat a house with a water heater. It won't change the limited performance you should expect, or the likelihood you will use more coal to get the same - or lesser - performance than a "real" boiler would deliver.
If you do buy a new one, some of the $ are going for features that are useless in a boiler, including the stainless water contact surfaces and a 125 psi pressure rating. If you would consider that $85 unit, I'm not sure why you would not also consider a used hand-fired boiler. You might spend like $500 for a "basement" unit or $800-1000 for a dealer-backed one. Either way it would outperform a water heater, and save a lot relative to a new boiler or water heater.
In the end, it's your money, so do what you like.
Mike
If you do buy a new one, some of the $ are going for features that are useless in a boiler, including the stainless water contact surfaces and a 125 psi pressure rating. If you would consider that $85 unit, I'm not sure why you would not also consider a used hand-fired boiler. You might spend like $500 for a "basement" unit or $800-1000 for a dealer-backed one. Either way it would outperform a water heater, and save a lot relative to a new boiler or water heater.
In the end, it's your money, so do what you like.
Mike