Wood/Coal Boiler

If you are in need of a more conventional heating solution that requires no power look no further. Unlike an automated stoker boiler these units do not require power to generate heat. They can be set up wiith pumps like a typical boiler or a gravity fed sytem insuring heat during power failures. Models include many New Yorker coal boilers, EFM WCB-24 and others. Some of these units can also burn wood.
Marcuss
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Stove/Furnace Make: Itasca wood/coal boiler
Stove/Furnace Model: WCB 415

Post Mon. Feb. 04, 2013 8:47 pm

Boiler temp 182f and water temp 172f so it seems the issue is resoved.

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Lightning
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size
Location: Olean, NY

Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2013 4:11 am

Rob R. wrote:Perhaps your draft isn't very strong. Try leaving the manual pipe damper open. With 100+ pounds of coal in that boiler, it should create a WILD fire with enough air.

The other question is if the boiler is undersized?
I agree with Rob here.. Have you tried leaving the ash pan door open to let it get burning good? Just MAKE SURE you don't leave it unattended, it could get dangerously hot very quickly or could take 30-45 minutes depending on how strong the draft is.

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Post Thu. Feb. 07, 2013 10:24 pm

Outside temp 36f inside temp 73f and everything is working the way it is supposed to. Water temp 183f at oil boiler and Itasca boiler temp 215f for 2 hours, radiant tubing is heating the floor as expected. I still have 30 psi boiler pressure,I tried to lower pressure but it seems that will not be possible because air pockets develop in the system. With 2600ft of tubing and 500ft of fin tube and copper feed lines along with at least 100ft of additional copper piping it seems things are working the way they are supposed to.

I do not close ash pan until the water temp is 180, once the water temp is there maintaining temp for a few hours is not a issue any longer.

What I am curious about is how much coal usage other people are using with their units per month.

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Dennis
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size
Location: Pottstown,Pa

Post Fri. Feb. 08, 2013 7:58 am

Marcuss wrote:I still have 30 psi boiler pressure,I tried to lower pressure but it seems that will not be possible because air pockets develop in the system.
In your one pic you posted,it looks like you need a larger expansion tank.Go with a #90 or larger with your hand fired boiler.I had a smaller #30 and psi was always near 28 psi no matter what I did,since I installed a #90 it's stays at 12psi to 15 psi dependeing on boiler temp.


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Dennis
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size
Location: Pottstown,Pa

Post Fri. Feb. 08, 2013 8:31 am

Marcuss wrote:Water temp 183f at oil boiler and Itasca boiler temp 215f for 2 hours, radiant tubing is heating the floor as expected.
Marcuss wrote:With 2600ft of tubing and 500ft of fin tube and copper feed lines along with at least 100ft of additional copper piping it seems things are working the way they are supposed to.
With pex tubing your running the boiler too hot now,you don't want to melt your pex lines and have a major problem with only an expensive fix.Now that you have heat in the boiler you need to control that heat.Glad your on your way to a warmer winter.

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Stove/Furnace Model: WCB415

Post Sat. Mar. 09, 2013 8:05 pm

Hi.
Do you have technical books of this boiler model (WCB415)?
I'll appreciate if you can share this info because I have one of this boilers, and I can't install it.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Sat. Mar. 09, 2013 8:22 pm

joeromero wrote:Hi.
Do you have technical books of this boiler model (WCB415)?
I'll appreciate if you can share this info because I have one of this boilers, and I can't install it.
Why can't you install it?

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Post Sun. Mar. 10, 2013 1:07 pm

I have no books. I can walk you through the installation of the system if needed.


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Post Sun. Mar. 10, 2013 8:18 pm

Ok. Let me know.

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Post Fri. Mar. 15, 2013 10:40 pm

I sent you private msg with no reply.

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Post Fri. Mar. 15, 2013 10:45 pm

I'll sell that boiler.

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