Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

If you are in need of a more conventional heating solution that requires no power look no further. Unlike an automated stoker boiler these units do not require power to generate heat. They can be set up wiith pumps like a typical boiler or a gravity fed sytem insuring heat during power failures. Models include many New Yorker coal boilers, EFM WCB-24 and others. Some of these units can also burn wood.
bksaun
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62
Location: Hustonville, Ky

Post Sat. Jan. 21, 2012 11:21 am

Does anyone have any first hand info on either of these boilers? There is not much on the forum about them.

The Portage and Main stoker unit looks really good with the ash auger.

http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/pdf_brochure ... bApr19.pdf


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Post Sat. Jan. 21, 2012 12:15 pm

I think we have one forum member with this stoker boiler in opperation. It looks really nice,, but have you checked out the price??? :shock:

I think with all the used Wilburt and IronFireman stokers around, and the good boiler vessels, I'd make up a hybrid like europechris did.

Greg L.
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62
Location: Hustonville, Ky

Post Sun. Jan. 22, 2012 12:39 am

They are pricey, Im not as handy as he is, I would hate to spend a lot of money and time to have something not work well. I was under the impression I would be better off with a rotating ring stoker for burning Ky Bit. Remember I am gone 24 hrs or more on a work day, its all my wife can do to handle this hand fed hitzer.

One thing that bothers me is they are both made in Canada, I would prefer an American made product.

Bk
"Corn Stoves", It is morally wrong to burn something you can make into Whiskey!

BK

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Post Sun. Jan. 22, 2012 3:11 am

Did you see the thread from more than a year ago where EFM tested one of their 700 models burning Bit coal? They tested several different coals,
The 700 has a rotating pot.

I believe scrapper23 has an efm700 for sale, or did. fully refurbed for a lot less than the coalman stoker.

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal
Location: Buffalo/Adirondacks, NY

Post Sun. Jan. 22, 2012 11:04 am

The EFM 700 would be the ticket IF you can locate a supplier of pea stoker (stoker 1" and under) The EFM's have always had a problem with a small auger. The coalman etc. are excellent choices for heating your house along with all the other buildings using larger coal and can be setup with an ash and feed auger, but, as noted, they do require an initial investment that many can't afford. If you intend to heat all your buildings and your home I imagine the payback period will be pretty quick especially if you have only propane/electric air/air heat pump where you are, if you have NG it may take a little bit longer. yes, with your kentucky coal the non-clinkering type rotating ring stokers are ideal and they allow for easy (automated) ash removal.
Burning western Pennsylvania Bituminous in WNY using model 77 stoker furnace. BITUMINOUS equiptment: 2 hand fired stoves of my own design, Many Combustioneer Model 77 stokers, stokermatic furnace, Many Will-Burt stokers, & and Two Iron firemen.

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Post Sun. Jan. 22, 2012 11:30 am

OK, BK, the bituminous GURU has spoken !! :lol:

Time to look for a EFM 700 !!

but it won't fit in your airplane !!

Greg L.
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Mon. Jan. 23, 2012 1:17 am

Often wondered about these. I called these folks last year before I bought. One of their employees wants an AA to medal with to make a hybrid AA and P&M for himself. Price is way out of orbit, probably have to circulate the water 24/7, and have plate heat exchangers. It probably does work, but living this close to anthracite and Williamsport, plus folks digging used AA's out of there basements once in a while, made it a no brainier. Really happy with the axeman. It must be efficient because I still have a few dollars in my wallet and my wife isnt bitching at me for being cold.

I do like the ash remover. :idea: Made me think about making something to do the task. Thought about the chained conveyors in concrete trough like old milk barns had to drag cow crap out. Never did it though. And now thinking about it, they go with a screw auger, it might help prevent cold air from blowing right into the unit.
:flush: No crap chains for me :doh:

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62
Location: Hustonville, Ky

Post Mon. Jan. 23, 2012 1:19 pm

checking on pea stoker coal today.

Bk
"Corn Stoves", It is morally wrong to burn something you can make into Whiskey!

BK


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Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)
Location: Utah

Post Mon. Jan. 23, 2012 11:49 pm

Can efm stokers handle coal up to 1" diameter?
A couple years ago I sent coal to stokerman to test and was told I would need to screen the coal using 1/2 inch hardware cloth. It was a efm520 if that makes a difference...?
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Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal
Location: Buffalo/Adirondacks, NY

Post Tue. Jan. 24, 2012 1:40 am

according to coal berner, the auger shaft on a 700 and up boiler is 5/8" the auger tube is 2.5min ID which leaves about 1". I thought the auger tube on the 700 and up was 3" but it seems that I am wrong, it's 2.5"ID 3" or close would be better, but 2.5 will do. I asked him this question because I'm looking into an EFM 700 to burn bit pea stoker for a family member.
Burning western Pennsylvania Bituminous in WNY using model 77 stoker furnace. BITUMINOUS equiptment: 2 hand fired stoves of my own design, Many Combustioneer Model 77 stokers, stokermatic furnace, Many Will-Burt stokers, & and Two Iron firemen.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62
Location: Hustonville, Ky

Post Sat. Jan. 28, 2012 12:11 pm

Well I talked to the coal yard today, they still offer stoker and pea stoker and plan to do so for many years so I guess I need to start looking for an EFM 700, that way I can burn both if the need arrises.

Now I need to start reading the Boiler forums and learn how to pipe evrything and what all the controls do.

I think a call to Glen Harris would be a good start.

Bk
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BK

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Post Mon. Nov. 12, 2012 8:05 pm

LsFarm wrote:I think we have one forum member with this stoker boiler in opperation. It looks really nice,, but have you checked out the price??? :shock:

I think with all the used Wilburt and IronFireman stokers around, and the good boiler vessels, I'd make up a hybrid like europechris did.

Greg L.
What was the price tag on the Portage and Main stoker unit?

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Post Mon. Nov. 12, 2012 8:19 pm

Has anyone heard of this boilers price?

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Post Mon. Nov. 12, 2012 8:37 pm

Haven't found any dealers or websites besides http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/products/coa ... -ml30.html

This was a little disturbing to read ( read the red texts ) http://www.noutilitybills.com/OldProducts/pm/Pric ... oodPM.html
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Post Mon. Nov. 12, 2012 8:40 pm

Yes...I did find those sites...but no prices...


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