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mozz
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam
Location: Wayne county PA.

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 7:29 pm

[quote="k9 Bara"] Your coal burns a lot like soft coal. Cakes up, chokes out the fire. I'm sure there are better applications that this coal would perform better in, /quote]

I guess you yourself have burned it? Yes or no? Standing in the back row means nothing. Burns really hot I think he should be adjusting the air/feed on a EFM. Does he use the same settings as you? Either you have burned it or no. I have no problems so far in a AA130. Do you want a picture? I really want you to comment when and if you have burned it. It's half the price or less of "ANY" coal around here and there is no possible way a person should expect it to be perfect, unless they are like you and only burn the best. I have some $500/ton coal I will sell you, it's the best, just look at the price. John may not burn coal himself and may have no idea what a clinker is. Unbelievable.
Gouldsboro PA.


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k9 Bara
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1996 EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Buck / Reading
Location: Red Creek, Fair Haven area NY

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 7:45 pm

:lol: Nope. I have not burned it. ...and I wont. I am basing that opinion of the results supplied. Look at that picture, does it look like any clinker or whatever that you have had with any other anthracite before? Believe me or not, I hope that your coal burns great and you have no issues. Again, I hope it was just a bad load that he picked up, and you'll be fine. But if I was you (and I know I'm not) I would be burning some of that coal now, so I am confident come heating time. But, I am the kinda guy that puts an extra of everything from my boiler setup that I can up on the shelf. I want a replacement to put on at midnight on Sunday, cause I have *censored* luck and that's when it will break.

Good luck with it

And send ScottCoaled a PM, I'm sure he will give you a awesome deal on some coal
Thanks,
George

rwwsr
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Stoker Coal Boiler: ahs s260 3
Coal Size/Type: pea
Location: Dover, Delaware

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 8:25 pm

hey mozz
"I have no problems so far in a AA130."

Are you running the pea thru your aa130? I am thinking about trying some for an ahs260.

Thanks
Randy
Randy

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Rob R.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 9:02 pm

mozz wrote:Did you make adjustments or just dump it in? Tell what settings you use on your EFM.
Scottscoaled wrote:I hustled right down there and got a ton of rice/buck to try before I bought a TT load. To supply my DHW I have been burning it for a week now. Well,,,, I should say trying to burn it. It burns real hot. That is the only good thing I can say about it. If someone would like the rest of a ton of Rice/Buck you can have it for free. You only need to get it the f**k out of my bin. This guy said that the EFM guys love it. Bull sh8t!!!! I'm only hoping that I just got a bad bunch and the rest isn't like this. Sorry to ruin a good thing. This product rates 0 out of 5 stars. Scott
A few days ago I talked to Scott and he was running 5 teeth of feed and a setting of 2 on the air...which is basically as low as you can go on the air. He started out with whatever settings worked well with his other coal, and ended up with a clinker that almost hit the top of the boiler above the pot. Underfed and inclined bed stokers seem to be more sensative to ash characteristics/fushion temp. than an Axeman or AHS, which will usually spit out clinkers without fuss.

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Scottscoaled
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 9:13 pm

Moss,,,,, 10 days ago you posted that you had 4-5 feet of coal above your auger. You just posted that it was burning great for you. You emptied your bin and started fresh? Well,,,,,I did.
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

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whistlenut
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ & V-Wert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks,Itasca 415,Jensen, NYer 130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska, EFM, Keystoker, Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska, Keystoker-2,Leisure Line
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska, Gibraltar, Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Ford, Jensen, NYer, Van Wert,
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwoods
Coal Size/Type: Barley, Buck, Rice ,Nut, Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB
Location: Central NH, Concord area

Post Tue. Aug. 21, 2012 9:16 pm

AA's and the AHS design allows for some flexibility with clinkers, however a HARD clinker may need some Exlax to get it to the ash bucket. Most everyone who burns in these boilers will tell of breaking up a massive clinker or two, and breaking a hard sweat to do it. I have not burned this product from Newport Coal, so all I can ask is to have more test results for comparison. John may be able to shed some light when he provides the BTU and ash content numbers.
By the way, Scott has burned a kernel or two in EFMs, so please understand he is way smarter that a novice. He knows the fuel to air ratios and says he has adjusted the air as low as it can go. I saw the size of that clinker and was suitably impressed that it was that high. I'll wait for more intel on this issue. Bedtime for old farts......Fred, you listening?!
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a 'piece of human solid waste' by the clean end." More true today....

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wsherrick
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size
Location: High In The Poconos

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 1:01 am

Poconoeagle wrote:how bout hand fired I wonder ;)
We shall see, presently.

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Poconoeagle
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Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska
Location: Tobyhanna PA

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 7:24 am

cool
"Do it Right the First Time" dont leave it for the next guy, as YOU may be the Next guy!!


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freetown fred
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
Location: Freetown,NY 13803

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 7:53 am

Hell PE, hand fired will burn anything but stones--ask SMITTY. I guess the more complicated the stove set-up the more girly the coal quality has to be. My 50-93 needs anthracite & tending every 12 or so hours in the dead of winter ;) Coal comes from Mother Earth & is far from a perfect science. Personally, I would of gotten a 5 gal pail & done a couple burns to check this stuff out, which John offered people to do. No need to shoot the messenger :( PS--oh yeah, I heard ya WN & reading all this certainly helped ;)
"A people that values it's privileges above it's principals, soon loses both"--Dwight D Eisenhower

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Scottscoaled
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 9:46 am

Guys. Do not mistake what I'm saying here. This coal will not burn for me in my autofeed stoker. I have to be here to tend it. Between it going out and clinkering enough to run off the side of the stoker, this has gone from emtying the ashes once a month to being here to guard the fire. It is not what I signed up for. I am hugely dissapointed in the fact that I had gotten a quote from John to have a 22 - 24 ton load dropped at my house for $138 a ton. Do you know how good that is for this neck of the woods? I was real hesitant to say anything being I was only into it for one ton. It could burn the cat's ass for all of you. Why don't you find out. Like I said, maybe I just got a bad spot in the pile coming off the crusher plant. If I wanted a hand fired, I would have one.
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

Pacowy
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite
Location: Dalton, MA

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 9:56 am

freetown fred wrote: I guess the more complicated the stove set-up the more girly the coal quality has to be.
Hold on there, Fred. If you poke around in the EFM section I think you'll find posts and videos of EFM's burning sub-bit, bit, wood pellets, corn blends and various other fuels. I'd agree that sometimes you have to play with the feed/air settings for a while, but I think the EFM's generally are pretty adaptable to different fuels. That's why Scott's experience is disconcerting.

Mike

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freetown fred
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
Location: Freetown,NY 13803

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 10:30 am

OK, nothing meant to be personal. I'm glad scottscoaled posted what he did & this is in no way meant to degrade John, but I have learned over many years, oh OK, not that many Richard ;) , that if something is working well for me I usually end up the fool for thinking the grass is greener on the other side. I'm sure Johns coal would burn fine in my Hitzer--just the nature of the beast, but after 4 seasons of being totally satisfied w/ my current dealer, why would I change????? PRICE??? Yes, mine costs more then $150 or whatever a ton, plus, he's been here for those years. I could pay $400.00 a ton for the season & still be spending a third of what fuel oil/kero would cost me in this 200 yr old farm house.
"A people that values it's privileges above it's principals, soon loses both"--Dwight D Eisenhower

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Scottscoaled
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 9:34 pm

This the one I got today :?
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Just once I would like to see a decent fire. I wish I would have got a picture of the first one. It was like this but 18" Tall. Then I turned down the air. :)
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

mason coal burner
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Stove/Furnace Make: hitzer/glenwood
Stove/Furnace Model: 82/111
Location: so. nh

Post Wed. Aug. 22, 2012 10:14 pm

Hey William were waiting for an update . You should shoot a video . We like your videos .

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anthony7812
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Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
Location: Colley,Pennsylvania

Post Thu. Aug. 23, 2012 12:49 am

mason coal burner wrote:Hey William were waiting for an update . You should shoot a video . We like your videos .
Right! :clap:
Anthony


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