EFEL Symphony
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Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the board and to burning coal, but am I am looking forward to reading up so that I'm ready for fall. I'm familiar with burning wood, but just purchased a house with an Efel Symphony coal stove. The previous owner of the house raved about the stove and it's long burn times, so I'm up for giving it a shot.
Just wondering if anyone is at all familiar with the Efel Symphony and if so, if anyone has any product literature. I'm waiting on a response from Efel direct, and I've also scoured the internet, but no luck so far other than a few pictures and replacement part websites.
Thanks everyone in advance,
Scott
I'm new to the board and to burning coal, but am I am looking forward to reading up so that I'm ready for fall. I'm familiar with burning wood, but just purchased a house with an Efel Symphony coal stove. The previous owner of the house raved about the stove and it's long burn times, so I'm up for giving it a shot.
Just wondering if anyone is at all familiar with the Efel Symphony and if so, if anyone has any product literature. I'm waiting on a response from Efel direct, and I've also scoured the internet, but no luck so far other than a few pictures and replacement part websites.
Thanks everyone in advance,
Scott
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Welcome to the FORUM S. Some pix of your set up would be nice.
Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of burning black rocks. If I have it correct your Efel Symphony is a coal only stove. I found a page which shows an exploded view of the stove. Check it out and let us know if that is the right page. Also some photo's would help A LOT in giving you some pointers about coal stove operation. Also basically forget everything you know about wood burning a coal stove because,,, they are two completely different worlds. In the upper right corner you will see a search box. This is where you can put in your questions and get enough information back to make you go numb.
Analysis paralysis is to be avoided.
Post some photos of each side of the stove, front and back and some good shots with the door open showing the grates, hopper assemblies and don't forget the rear and an outside shot of the chimney. You would be surprised what a couple of well placed photo's can reveal to the folks on this forum.
Again welcome and now is the time to learn your stove before you try to use it. Here is that link
http://www.efelspares.co.uk/Spares/71/1/Symphony-Coal.html
Analysis paralysis is to be avoided.
Post some photos of each side of the stove, front and back and some good shots with the door open showing the grates, hopper assemblies and don't forget the rear and an outside shot of the chimney. You would be surprised what a couple of well placed photo's can reveal to the folks on this forum.
Again welcome and now is the time to learn your stove before you try to use it. Here is that link
http://www.efelspares.co.uk/Spares/71/1/Symphony-Coal.html
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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it! I'm closing on the house 6/30, so I'll be able to post more detailed pics during that week. In the meantime, here is a quick picture of the stove that I snapped during the home inspection.
I'll take look around the forum so that I can start boning up on the switch to burning coal.
Thanks again!
Scott
I'll take look around the forum so that I can start boning up on the switch to burning coal.
Thanks again!
Scott
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Welcome to the forum, scottg.
That's a nice looking stove. Once you see the benefits of burning coal, you'll love it as we do.
That's a nice looking stove. Once you see the benefits of burning coal, you'll love it as we do.
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Welcome scottg, Hope all goes well with the new home and moving in.
I see in the online parts diagrams that model has a coal hopper.
If you've used a wood stove, the part of coal stoves I'm sure you'll appreciate is,.... Figure on at least double the time between when a coal stove needs tending compared to the same size wood stove. The hopper extends that time interval even more. So, no need getting up in the night to feed the stove - you can sleep through and come down to warmth in the morning because the stove will be putting out the same heat it did when you went to bed.
Paul
I see in the online parts diagrams that model has a coal hopper.
If you've used a wood stove, the part of coal stoves I'm sure you'll appreciate is,.... Figure on at least double the time between when a coal stove needs tending compared to the same size wood stove. The hopper extends that time interval even more. So, no need getting up in the night to feed the stove - you can sleep through and come down to warmth in the morning because the stove will be putting out the same heat it did when you went to bed.
Paul
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I think that stove will work well for you provided you develop an effective method of clearing ash. I think you need a slicing poker for that. With the stove empty slide that poker in and observe how much of the grate it can actually cover. Coal will only burn well in those areas that ash can be cleared from.
Scott I am 99 percent sure your stove is made for pea coal .Keller Enterprises in Northampton Sells these an offer great customer help on running your stove .Google them an get phone number .That's in Penna . Good luck .
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Hi Everyone,
I'm all settled in the new house and have finally been able to get a closer look at the Efel. It looks relatively straight forward although I do have some questions and can't seem to find any hint of a manual online. I've also been thinking about replacing the glass, as it's not cracked, but it has "crackles" in it for a lack of a better word. Trying to find parts online for this stove seems to be a bit of a challenge, as well, everything seems to be sourced from the UK.
At any rate, here are some pics! The stove has a back plate (guessing it's what makes up the hopper) which is currently not installed, as I believe at the end of last season the previous owner was burning wood. It looks like there are markings showing where the back plate should sit (I'm guessing) with a few different indicators - 6/12, 12/22, and 20/30.. not sure of the significance. Anyone have any ideas?
[/attachment] Thanks everyone as always! Looking forward to fall!
Scott
I'm all settled in the new house and have finally been able to get a closer look at the Efel. It looks relatively straight forward although I do have some questions and can't seem to find any hint of a manual online. I've also been thinking about replacing the glass, as it's not cracked, but it has "crackles" in it for a lack of a better word. Trying to find parts online for this stove seems to be a bit of a challenge, as well, everything seems to be sourced from the UK.
At any rate, here are some pics! The stove has a back plate (guessing it's what makes up the hopper) which is currently not installed, as I believe at the end of last season the previous owner was burning wood. It looks like there are markings showing where the back plate should sit (I'm guessing) with a few different indicators - 6/12, 12/22, and 20/30.. not sure of the significance. Anyone have any ideas?
[/attachment] Thanks everyone as always! Looking forward to fall!
Scott
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I didn't see anywhere that indicates you can shake those grates. Do they shake somehow that I couldn't see? Any more parts to that stove lying around?
Looking on Woodsmans Parts supply, looks like maybe your plate is the front plate of the coal hopper. Might be missing the other parts.
Take a look:
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/68/catalogs/Wood ... rence.html
http://rs.woodmanspartsplus.com/company_41/Sympho ... 20List.pdf
dj
Looking on Woodsmans Parts supply, looks like maybe your plate is the front plate of the coal hopper. Might be missing the other parts.
Take a look:
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/68/catalogs/Wood ... rence.html
http://rs.woodmanspartsplus.com/company_41/Sympho ... 20List.pdf
dj
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Hi DJ,
Thanks for the info and the links. I see what you mean.. There seems to be quite a few pieces missing. I can't seem to find the coal basket, shaker grate, etc.
Hmm.. Can't imagine what the previous owner might have done with them.. I assume they were taken out for wood burning, but I know he also burned coal, so I don't imagine they were trashed.. I'll have to check all of the outbuildings!
Thanks,
Scott
Thanks for the info and the links. I see what you mean.. There seems to be quite a few pieces missing. I can't seem to find the coal basket, shaker grate, etc.
Hmm.. Can't imagine what the previous owner might have done with them.. I assume they were taken out for wood burning, but I know he also burned coal, so I don't imagine they were trashed.. I'll have to check all of the outbuildings!
Thanks,
Scott
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That ain't no anthracite burner.
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You use a slicing poker to clear ash. The grate does not shake.
Woodmans lists the slicer.
Woodmans lists the slicer.
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I agree with Franco. Looking at the parts diagram, I don't see that the grates are set up in such a way that they could be moved side to side, or front to back to shake ashes.
The diagram only lists three tools - none of which is a shaker handle - just a slicing handle as Franco mentioned. Not really affective for clearing ash and clinker.
Paul
The diagram only lists three tools - none of which is a shaker handle - just a slicing handle as Franco mentioned. Not really affective for clearing ash and clinker.
Paul
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With small grate openings it really is the only way and can be effective if the offset portion can reach all areas of the grate. The downside is that with a flat poker ash will cling to it when withdrawing.