Godin Octagon 3733

Very popular in the 70's and 80's there is many brands of smaller hand fired coal stoves from many European countries. These can also date back to the turn of the last century. Imported stoves would include such brands as Franco Belge, Saey and Efel among many others.
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Post Tue. Dec. 03, 2013 1:07 am

Hello Godin Fans,

Running the 3721 Large Round in the back of the house and we are installing a like new 3733 in the dining room which is centrally located. Should have the stove up and running in two days.

My Large Round has one exhaust port, while the 3733 has an upper and a lower. Why the two ports? The lower one has a single vertical "grate" bisecting the hole. There must be a good reason for this, however I know my stoves all exhaust at the top?

The stove is in excellent condition, and has never been fired.

Thanks,

Matt
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Post Thu. Dec. 05, 2013 8:56 am

I fired the Godin with Cowboy charcoal and over the course of twelve hours, slowly raised the temperature. The stove had never been fired. I awoke this morning, and temps reading of 550F on
top, 450F in rear, and the side tiles read 250 The lower rim of the stove was at 100F. Basically, there isn't a cold spot anywhere.

Coal is still burning near the grate up to 1" below top flue.

I am running 5" pipe to 6" chimney.
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Post Thu. Dec. 05, 2013 9:46 am

Good morning vmn1983,, would love to see some pic's of the octagon!...I have seen one or two for sale on e-bay never fired though :( :(
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Post Thu. Dec. 05, 2013 11:41 am

vmi1983 wrote:
My Large Round has one exhaust port, while the 3733 has an upper and a lower. Why the two ports? The lower one has a single vertical "grate" bisecting the hole. There must be a good reason for this, however I know my stoves all exhaust at the top?
In France I have seen the lower port used for an install in front of a fireplace. Exit at the lower port, short, straight pipe to a "T" in the fireplace. Bottom of the "T" for cleanout, top to the flue. Does yours have the exhaust manifold between the two outlets. If so, when you use the top outlet the bottom slowly fills with ash & fines. It is a good idea to clean it once in a while.

The 3733 is a pretty stove. What color is yours?

KaptJaq

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Post Thu. Dec. 05, 2013 12:03 pm

Hi Kaptjaq,

The Stove is enamel black, model 3733, has the tiles or you can remove them and there is a floral enamel painting on reverse side. The tiles absorb the radiant heat.
I just removed the tile, and stove is kicking heat.

Thanks for the info on the lower port. I'll get a few pictures asasp.

Matt
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 10:01 am

Hi Guys,

Should I remove the tiles and go with painted sheet metal? I am not sure which is best... I am told the tile will retain heat, perhaps providing a more gentle heat flow.
Tile or all metal? I need to heat a portion of my house?

Matt
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 10:23 am

[quote="vmi1983"]Hi Guys,

Should I remove the tiles and go with painted sheet metal? I am not sure which is best... I am told the tile will retain heat, perhaps providing a more gentle heat flow.
Tile or all metal? I need to heat a portion of my house?

Matt[/quote]

I would fire the stove with the tiles and record ambient temps at different locations in the house and then do the same without the tiles and then go with your best results. I have a feeling with the tiles it will allow you to sit closer to the stove and with time the radiant heat will heat the furthest places similar in both cases. :idea:
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 11:55 am

Thanks Michael,

You know I think you are right, I check it out during the coming cold snap.

Matt
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 8:55 pm

Here's a couple pics I scanned from an old catalog from the 80's. Although I bought the OLIX I still have,
the dealer also sold the Godins.

Image

Image

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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 11:19 pm

Thanks Vangellis!

That is the exact model, color and tiles all match.... no kidding, the stove was never fired. It's from the 80's and like new...

It can really lay out some heat.... thanks again.

Matt
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 11:36 pm

Vangellis wrote:Here's a couple pics I scanned from an old catalog from the 80's. Kevin
Wow, what a neat lil stove!

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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 11:45 pm

Your welcome. Certainly a unique look.

Kevin
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Post Fri. Dec. 06, 2013 11:59 pm

That is realy a beautiful model stove!

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Post Sat. Dec. 07, 2013 12:07 am

tomcat wrote:That is realy a beautiful model stove!
Model? No I think it really burns coal, doesn't it? :lol:

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Post Sat. Dec. 07, 2013 6:09 pm

Hi Gents,

Before I fired the Godin, I noticed that shaker action was very stiff; I had to use a lot of muscle to push and pull the shaker handle. I assumed that the mechanism must be broken in. With the stove firing, I have to exert much force to shake the grate. I do not wish to snap the rod, so I have been clearing the grate using my specially made coal poker.

On the Large Round, the action is very smooth requiring no force, and the grate moves effortlessly.

The Octagon has never been fired before, is it common to have a rough shaker action on a new/like new Godin? Anyone had this issue? If so, how do I "fix" the action.
Thanks in advance!

Matt
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