Man made smokeless coal

 
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Post by Wal » Sun. May. 02, 2021 8:56 am

Here it is in my bunker 👍

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Post by warminmn » Sun. May. 02, 2021 10:07 am

Thats interesting info Wal. If I see some local again I may give them a try, depending on price and distance of course. The ad I see on facebook is a distance from me.

 
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Post by Wal » Sun. May. 02, 2021 10:57 am

£375 = $518 just can’t understand why anthracite is so expensive in the uk ? How much do you pay for it over in the USA ?

 
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Post by warminmn » Sun. May. 02, 2021 11:02 am

My area is higher than most as Im 1000 miles from the source but $300 a ton bagged. Some here get it under $200 in bulk loose picked up at breakers. Bagged is always more.

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. May. 02, 2021 3:17 pm

Guys that are close to the breaker and can pick up can get it for under $200 a ton. I get bulk delivery for $235 per ton from a guy that's located between me and the breaker.

 
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Post by nepacoal » Sun. May. 02, 2021 5:18 pm

For bulk, I pay $185 delivered and my father in law pays $175 delivered. We do live in coal country...


 
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Post by Wal » Mon. May. 03, 2021 12:53 am

So if you are paying around $200 a tonne which is £ 144 , I can understand how it is economical to run a large stove or baseburner. As you can see I was paying £375 a tonne , nearly 3 times the amount that you pay , so you can understand why I was looking for a cheaper alternative.

 
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Post by Wal » Mon. May. 03, 2021 1:01 am

Just want to say I love my baseburner it heats most of the back of the house , and the other 2 stoves keep the rest of the house warm . I wouldn’t swap them for anything , it has been my dream to own a baseburner for years and now I own one I am really happy , it produces plenty of heat and looks beautiful, just wish the uk would come more in line with you lads in the states price wise on anthracite ha ha !

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. May. 04, 2021 8:52 pm

If one buys a TT load about 24 tons the bulk price in the New England area can be can be in the $220/ton range...
Purchased in 40 lb bags it can be $400-600 per ton...

 
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Post by Wal » Mon. May. 10, 2021 4:55 am

Just a update on the smokeless man made coal . Decided to try it in my baseburner as the temp had dropped last week to around 5 degrees. Filled it 50lb in the pot , 23 lb in the coal magazine. Burns nice and hot ( stove was 545 degrees) but it browned up the mica and didn’t clear even at the temp it was running at ! Everything had burned to ash in 14 hrs , so not economical to burn as anthracite was giving me over 24 hrs before filling just the coal magazine! Took over a hr to clean all the mica windows with diluted white vinegar 😤. So it’s great to use in my other two stoves , but I will just have to bite the bullet and pay for anthracite for the baseburner even though it is more costly in the long run I will get longer burn times and no browsing of the mica !

 
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Post by McGiever » Mon. May. 10, 2021 9:41 am

There were USA/Pennsylvania made smokeless ovids presented here at the Coalpail in 2011...

 
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Post by ReidH » Mon. May. 10, 2021 11:06 pm

Wal wrote:
Sun. May. 02, 2021 10:57 am
£375 = $518 just can’t understand why anthracite is so expensive in the uk ? How much do you pay for it over in the USA ?
Hi Wal, I don’t believe there are any active Anthracite mines in the UK. Shipping becomes a major component of the price in that case. I live in Ontario, around 500 miles from the mines in PA. I can buy whatever the going price in PA for it per ton, but when I add shipping and taxes, it is around $550 per ton In Canadian dollars.
I can get it from a business in Ontario for a little less and that is about as good as it gets short of bringing a whole railcar in.
Reid

 
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Post by Wal » Tue. May. 11, 2021 3:57 am

Hi , They still mine anthracite in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 that’s where all the anthracite comes from . I bought direct from a company who are only a few miles from the actual mine + it was free delivery ( by truck ) to my home which is probably around 200 miles away . But even with free delivery Paying £375 English pound ( over $ 500) is a lot to pay 💰 per tonne , when my baseburner burned that in 3 months . Like I said previously just don’t understand why it is so expensive, unless the mine in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 is keeping its price high as it’s the only one that’s operational?

 
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Post by ReidH » Tue. May. 11, 2021 8:32 am

Wales was the centre of anthracite mining in the UK, but I thought the mines were closed in the past decade. Assume Phurnicite is being produced from culm. Most hard and soft coals now being imported from Eastern Europe.

If there is a mine still open in Wales, they are probably selling for what the market can bear. That or with dwindling supply, the cost to extract is high.

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