Storage of Bituminous Coal Outside

 
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Post by kpatterson » Thu. Dec. 12, 2019 7:41 pm

Putting bit. outside is okay as long as it doesn't get wet from rain, sleet, or snow. Then it is very very hard to start in a stove. A plastic tarp works pretty good to keep it dry.

 
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Post by carlherrnstein » Mon. Dec. 16, 2019 9:52 pm

It really depends on where the coal is from and what seem its from. One year when I was a kid, dad got about 2 seasons worth of coal an the second winter a lot of the lumps had weathered and broke down to the size of stoker.

When I ran a hand fired I would get coal from around New Lexington Ohio and it was very weather tolerant it was glossy black with dark brown bands an only got a little dull after being in the weather uncovered all summer.

 
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Post by fig » Tue. Dec. 17, 2019 6:25 am

The stove coal I get is usually wet when I get it. I just leave it on the trailer and cover it with a tarp. The tarp isn’t completely waterproof and I usually end up with a chunk of frozen coal in the bottom. I just dump it and a few hours in the sun loosens it up. I didn’t really notice any difference burning it wet. YMMV.

 
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Post by Willis » Fri. Dec. 27, 2019 7:43 am

If you are storing lump outside, cover it up. Any little bands of ash will weather and break the lumps down like carlherrnstein said. Stoker and nut coal are a little more forgiving to weather.


 
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Post by fig » Fri. Dec. 27, 2019 8:35 am

All I can get is stove coal and fines 😄. I do cover my trailer with a tarp though. I lay a length of 12” dia. culvert on top and put the tarp over it forming a tent. It keeps water from pooling on the tarp and freezing.

 
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Post by franco b » Fri. Dec. 27, 2019 12:25 pm

Also research storing bit. It is notorious for self igniting under some storage conditions. Old steamships often had fires in their coal storage bins.

 
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Post by fig » Fri. Dec. 27, 2019 12:39 pm

Yeh a friend at work told me to stick pipes in it. I don’t store enough to warrant that.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Sun. Dec. 29, 2019 12:46 pm

Many of the old ships stored their coal right against the side of the boiler

so many ships had fires. Thats why we dont't have many original

steam ships left . A lot of the old ones burned as they were constructed

of wood.

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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Feb. 14, 2020 9:39 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:
Mon. Dec. 16, 2019 9:52 pm
It really depends on where the coal is from and what seem its from. One year when I was a kid, dad got about 2 seasons worth of coal an the second winter a lot of the lumps had weathered and broke down to the size of stoker.

When I ran a hand fired I would get coal from around New Lexington Ohio and it was very weather tolerant it was glossy black with dark brown bands an only got a little dull after being in the weather uncovered all summer.
Apparently there are two New Lexington Ohio’s. Interesting.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Feb. 14, 2020 9:41 pm

franco b wrote:
Fri. Dec. 27, 2019 12:25 pm
Also research storing bit. It is notorious for self igniting under some storage conditions. Old steamships often had fires in their coal storage bins.
Interesting. Never heard that before. Learn something every day.

 
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Post by franco b » Fri. Feb. 14, 2020 10:16 pm

Hoytman wrote:
Fri. Feb. 14, 2020 9:41 pm
Interesting. Never heard that before. Learn something every day.
The Titanic had fire in one of the coal bins when it went down.
The battleship Maine is suspected of having had a coal gas explosion.
Conrad wrote the story of a steamer battling a coal fire for weeks before going down.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Feb. 14, 2020 11:13 pm

Interesting. It’s amazing how little American history is being taught these days...and even thirty, thirty five years ago. Thanks for the history lesson.

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