Old Coal Firing Techniques
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I acquired a book recently and it had some interesting articles on coal firing and stoker operation. I'm not sure where exactly to post these so I'll give this a shot since it has to do with bit coal more than anthracite.
Hope you all enjoy.
Hope you all enjoy.
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Reason: Removed images because of copyrights.
Reason: Removed images because of copyrights.
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Boilermaker, although I would love to host those images due to copyrights I can't allow them. I removed them to protect myself and you, you're more responsible for the files you upload here than I am if you're wondering. If you can obtain permission from the copyright owner you're welcome to upload them again.
Just a little background but as soon as an original work is generated its instantly copyrighted, it doesn't have to be registered or even published. These copyrights last for many years and in some cases beyond a century. I think it's something like the lifetime of the author plus 50 years. The only time you can use copyrighted material is if it falls under fair use which is pretty limited, for example you'd be able to quote a few sentences in the book if it pertained to the discussion, copying entire pages would not be fair use in most cases.
Just a little background but as soon as an original work is generated its instantly copyrighted, it doesn't have to be registered or even published. These copyrights last for many years and in some cases beyond a century. I think it's something like the lifetime of the author plus 50 years. The only time you can use copyrighted material is if it falls under fair use which is pretty limited, for example you'd be able to quote a few sentences in the book if it pertained to the discussion, copying entire pages would not be fair use in most cases.
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Thanks!
I had no idea. I'll look into it more and see what I can do for the rest of the gang. Perhaps I could share them in some other way....like email or something (as long as they're not published publicly).
In the mean time, sorry gang. I'll work on getting the permission needed.
I had no idea. I'll look into it more and see what I can do for the rest of the gang. Perhaps I could share them in some other way....like email or something (as long as they're not published publicly).
In the mean time, sorry gang. I'll work on getting the permission needed.
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Richard S.
I wrote to Popular Mechanics for permission to allow these 1949 articles to be published. Let's hope they give me the go ahead. If they do - I will send you a copy of the email indicating their permission sent to me (assuming they give it) and you can decide from there.
Sorry about that. I was so excited about finding these great old articles that I didn't even stop and think. Duh!
Doug
I wrote to Popular Mechanics for permission to allow these 1949 articles to be published. Let's hope they give me the go ahead. If they do - I will send you a copy of the email indicating their permission sent to me (assuming they give it) and you can decide from there.
Sorry about that. I was so excited about finding these great old articles that I didn't even stop and think. Duh!
Doug
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Mark Twain wrote some very angry pieces about how short copyrights lasted, how he couldn't pass on his intellectual property to future generations of his family. It sounds like things have improved -- maybe gone too far -- since his day.
Hello,
I realize this is quite an old post to reply to, but as I was going through the "archives" I ran across this post. Through a bit of research I have tried to do in Google Books, I have run across some old articles that may be the same as those originally posted, but do not know. Since these are subject to copyright agreements made by Google and many publishers, I suppose that posting links to these legally available to the public works, would not violate any applicable laws and the said consequences to posters or moderators. If I am wrong, please delete the posts and edit as you see fit.
Hand Firing with Coal, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1943, p116.
http://books.google.com/books?id=S9YDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... rea&f=true
Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
How to Burn Soft Coal, Popular Mechanics, March 1926, p505.
http://books.google.com/books?id=PdgDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
Slashing Your Coal Bills, Popular Science, Jan. 1928, p60.
http://books.google.com/books?id=fycDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
Five Ways of Save Fuel in Heating Houses, Popular Science, Nov. 1918, p114.
http://books.google.com/books?id=FCkDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
Improving Your Hot Air Furnace, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1926, p1045.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pdgDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ace&f=true
The Shipshape Home: Getting More Heat from Your Furnace, Popular Science, Feb. 1928, p94.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VycDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ace&f=true
Don't Pour Coal Up The Chimney, Popular Mechanics, Aug. 1946, p89.
http://books.google.com/books?id=7eEDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
"Reading" You Stoker Fire, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1945, p98.
http://books.google.com/books?id=p98DAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
Possibly I spend too much time on Google and this site, but I have always had a fascination with coal, and the industries that were tied to it since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
I realize this is quite an old post to reply to, but as I was going through the "archives" I ran across this post. Through a bit of research I have tried to do in Google Books, I have run across some old articles that may be the same as those originally posted, but do not know. Since these are subject to copyright agreements made by Google and many publishers, I suppose that posting links to these legally available to the public works, would not violate any applicable laws and the said consequences to posters or moderators. If I am wrong, please delete the posts and edit as you see fit.
Hand Firing with Coal, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1943, p116.
http://books.google.com/books?id=S9YDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... rea&f=true
Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
How to Burn Soft Coal, Popular Mechanics, March 1926, p505.
http://books.google.com/books?id=PdgDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
Slashing Your Coal Bills, Popular Science, Jan. 1928, p60.
http://books.google.com/books?id=fycDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
Five Ways of Save Fuel in Heating Houses, Popular Science, Nov. 1918, p114.
http://books.google.com/books?id=FCkDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ce&f=false
Improving Your Hot Air Furnace, Popular Mechanics, Dec. 1926, p1045.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pdgDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ace&f=true
The Shipshape Home: Getting More Heat from Your Furnace, Popular Science, Feb. 1928, p94.
http://books.google.com/books?id=VycDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... ace&f=true
Don't Pour Coal Up The Chimney, Popular Mechanics, Aug. 1946, p89.
http://books.google.com/books?id=7eEDAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
"Reading" You Stoker Fire, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1945, p98.
http://books.google.com/books?id=p98DAAAAMBAJ&pg= ... &q&f=false
Possibly I spend too much time on Google and this site, but I have always had a fascination with coal, and the industries that were tied to it since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
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Out of all those articles I am familiar with the last one about stoker fire. I have it saved on my computer and have referred to it for some time now...It's a good one.
Thanks for posting the links.
Thanks for posting the links.
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Great links!
Thanks for posting them. I have read a few of them before but they are still as relevent as ever.
Thanks for posting them. I have read a few of them before but they are still as relevent as ever.
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Thank you
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Here is an old silent film showing a smokeless furnace for soft coal similar to one mentioned in the link above. Wish I had that furnacebmelt571 wrote:Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAA ... ce&f=false
At the end of the film they also show the smokeless adapter that slides into a conventional furnace. (I don't completely understand how it works)
http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675053439_smo ... ng-furnace
When they show the blackboard sequence I looked close and it appears to have a hot blast technique in a square box instead of a cylinder. The bit coal doesn't care where the air comes from just so long as it gets it right at the fire level.rockwood wrote:Here is an old silent film showing a smokeless furnace for soft coal similar to one mentioned in the link above. Wish I had that furnacebmelt571 wrote:Stoves That Eat Their Own Smoke, Popular Mechanics, Nov. 1949, p115.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WdkDAA ... ce&f=false
At the end of the film they also show the smokeless adapter that slides into a conventional furnace. (I don't completely understand how it works)
http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675053439_smo ... ng-furnace
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The furnace was designed so that all volatile matter distilling from the fresh coal would be drawn through the live coal bed and be completely consumed, hence, no visible smoke (there probably wouldn't be any bit coal smell either). I think that furnace could actually burn as clean as a furnace employing a mechanical stoker.
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That's basically the design of the Hitzer 55 and 82 furnaces. They use the 'downdraft' to take the smoke thru the coal bed, and use preheated primary air.