Where Do You Get Your Bituminous Coal and a Going Price?

 
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Post by Berlin » Fri. Dec. 19, 2014 7:17 am

Bituminous coals have more variability so one is not like another. In addition, it burns differently than anthracite and there is a learning curve associated with that. If you have close neighbors, hand firing bituminous coal is not a good option.


 
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Post by McGiever » Fri. Dec. 19, 2014 8:02 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote:
McGiever wrote:The differences with Bituminous are a lot more than $$$$$
u saying its cheaper to burn antracite v. bit? Please explain if so..
Saying there are a few more differences than just the price you pay.

*Berlin* highlighted the big differences above.

 
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Post by mr.t » Fri. Jan. 16, 2015 5:01 pm

Does anyone know where I can get bituminous in north east pa

 
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Post by wnycoalier » Wed. Jan. 21, 2015 3:04 pm

There is an ad oh Craigslist for coal near Jamestown ny, I've PM'd Berlin to no luck. I'd like to try some in my wood boiler for giggles, but prefer somewhere near or just south of Buffalo.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Pittsburgh Nut Coal from Stardust Coal in Smithfield, Pa. 85.00 picked up, 103.00 delivered. 10 dollar bill there for size comparison.

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Post by Stoker6268 » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 6:59 pm

Wow thats big! Looks more like stove size to me. Not sure if anthracite and bituminous are sized the same though.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 7:24 pm

Yes, some of it fairly large lumps. Some is a lot smaller. Burns real well and throws lots of heat.


 
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Post by bksaun » Sun. Oct. 11, 2015 8:02 pm

Berlin is giving excellent advise, everyone should listen to him!

I burn Bit because I live in KY and can get it much cheaper than anthracite due to shipping cost. I have burned both extensively for over 10 years and if I lived in PA I would burn anthracite hands down over BIT and I have some of the finest BIT available.

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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Oct. 11, 2015 9:04 pm

bksaun wrote:Berlin is giving excellent advise, everyone should listen to him!

I burn Bit because I live in KY and can get it much cheaper than anthracite due to shipping cost. I have burned both extensively for over 10 years and if I lived in PA I would burn anthracite hands down over BIT and I have some of the finest BIT available.

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We do what we can afford. I've been disabled since Dec. 29th 2014.

My Bituminous coal is $85 per ton, Anthracite is 300 at TSC, $360 every where else. I will use 7 tons of coal, whether it be Bituminous or Anthracite as they have the same BTU output. These prices are without delivery/pickup.

I ran some numbers...........................

I had 5 tons of Bituminous delivered....$525 (I have 1 ton in my basement now). I still need 1 more ton minimum.
Anthracite at TSC is 300 per ton, it costs me 20 dollars per ton to haul (as they don't deliver) 320 X 5 = $1600.......That's a 1,075 dollar difference on 5 tons.

I have a small tractor with a front end loader. I can scoop up the 'bulk Bituminous, and pour it into the basement via my coal chute. Bags must be carried, due to my coal room design.

I just thank God my son is around to help with the shoveling of the coal, and ash removal.

 
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Post by Smitty275 » Wed. Oct. 14, 2015 5:42 pm

Bituminous Lump at Thompson Brothers in New Springfield, Ohio was $128/ton on Labor Day weekend. Nice manageable sizes right out of the tipple. Basketball size was about the biggest, with smallest about a softball and lots in between.

I got 2800lbs and only had about half a 5 gallon bucket of fines to sweep out of the truck bed.

 
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Post by Berlin » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 12:12 pm

People tend to like their Ohio bit in hand-fired appliances.

They offer a lot of different sizes and there'll be few companies that are nicer to buy from.

 
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Post by Smitty275 » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 6:18 pm

Berlin wrote:People tend to like their Ohio bit in hand-fired appliances.

They offer a lot of different sizes and there'll be few companies that are nicer to buy from.
You've got that right. Very nice people. Last two times I've been there the owner has came out to talk with me. I've been getting an education on coal.
He said they've gotten into some very good Ohio coal and are mixing it with their standard Ohio coal and its working out really good. I got a ton of that mix yesterday to top off my bin for the year. Price is still $128/ton. Tax takes it to $138.
Explained the difference in the Ky. coal for me too. Said it has a different binder in it which burns at about 2700 degrees. It'll also burn about 11/2 times as long as the Ohio coal because of its make up. Price is $238/ton + tax.
Fella after me had a ton of the Ky. lump loaded. While I was tarpping mine we got to talking and visually the Ky. coal is darker, less "grayish" I guess would be a way to describe it. He hand fires for a house about twice the size of mine and goes through about same tonnage per year. I told him about the forum. Hopefully he joins in.

 
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Post by Smitty275 » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 7:11 pm

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Bin with roughly 5000lbs

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Bin with roughly 3000lbs

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Loaded with 1 ton of Ohio Lump

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Thompson Tipple

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Post by Smitty275 » Sat. Oct. 15, 2016 2:08 pm

I have about a ton of that Thompson Brothers bituminous lump coal I'd like to get rid of. I'm moving and doubt new owners will be interested in burning coal. Louisville, Ohio. $75 easy access to load it up.

 
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Post by corey » Tue. Oct. 25, 2016 8:03 pm

Picked up 1.25 ton today in Norton Virginia for $100. Came from Kentucky


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