Where Do You Get Your Bituminous Coal and a Going Price?
- dad123456
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what's the difference between anthracite and bituminous I know one is soft butt hat's all I know be can it be burnt in any stove seems very cheap per ton I have a Glen wood 116 antique hand Fire
- lsayre
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Anthracite is low in volatiles and burns smoke free and close to odor free. A tad of sulfur odor. Bituminous is high in volatiles and burns (initially at least) anything but smoke and odor free. I've seen yellow to black smoke billowing from the homes of the Amish near here who burn it. Bituminous does generally have a lower ash content than anthracite, and in many cases it will actually have more BTU value than anthracite also. But you will need to clean the flue pipe more often with bit, and it can be more difficult to control the early stages of the fire while the high volatiles are burning off (which is when most of the smoke and stink occur as well).
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I bought bituminous in egg size (2-5") at Dettingers near Chippawa today @ $140/ton.
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What do you guys think of this for a Hot Blast 1557m?
Good price?
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Good price?
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For only $100 I'd figure out how to burn it in my machine. It'll be a lot of work moving it home. Good luck.
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I emailed the guy. Says it's his uncles coal and he can load it with a Bobcat. I also asked about a scale and he never mentioned it in his reply. I inquired about a quantity discount and his reply was "ya sure, call and work out a deal.
I have a 1 ton dump truck (International 1310) with 8'L x 6'-6"W x 19"T bed. Max weight capacity (tires) is 3.5 tons. So I will limit the load to 3 tons.
From previous readings on this forum, I have come to the conclusion that coal is light for it's size?
So, here is a question for all those coal load mathematicians I have seen on here. What should a full load of bituminous coal this size "about 1 to 2 inches in size" weigh in this bed?
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I have to confess, it has crossed my mind more than once to drive this outfit down there, unload the dump truck, have them load it with coal and then drive the dump truck back onto the trailer and tow it home. That old 7.3 diesel Ford has towed anything I have ever thrown at it and smiled the whole trip. The 43 year old International would be a real (slow) treat to drive home .
I have a 1 ton dump truck (International 1310) with 8'L x 6'-6"W x 19"T bed. Max weight capacity (tires) is 3.5 tons. So I will limit the load to 3 tons.
From previous readings on this forum, I have come to the conclusion that coal is light for it's size?
So, here is a question for all those coal load mathematicians I have seen on here. What should a full load of bituminous coal this size "about 1 to 2 inches in size" weigh in this bed?
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I have to confess, it has crossed my mind more than once to drive this outfit down there, unload the dump truck, have them load it with coal and then drive the dump truck back onto the trailer and tow it home. That old 7.3 diesel Ford has towed anything I have ever thrown at it and smiled the whole trip. The 43 year old International would be a real (slow) treat to drive home .
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Last Sat I had time to go for another load of bituminous egg. Called Thompsons and they had ran the tipple and had it still in the tipple hopper. Thought it would be good to test it back to back with the bit egg from Dettingers. In Ohio with tax its a couple bucks cheaper than in Pa without tax. Not enough to cover a gallon of gas. Anyhow, once the weather turns cold again I'll give a review. But for the last two days the Thompson coal seems to burn better with the out door temps only being in the low 30s/high 20s and only about
1/3 of grate covered.
Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
1/3 of grate covered.
Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
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Last Sat I had time to go for another load of bituminous egg. Called Thompsons and they had ran the tipple and had it still in the tipple hopper. Thought it would be good to test it back to back with the bit egg from Dettingers. In Ohio with tax its a couple bucks cheaper than in Pa without tax. Not enough to cover a gallon of gas. Anyhow, once the weather turns cold again I'll give a review. But for the last two days the Thompson coal seems to burn better with the out door temps only being in the low 30s/high 20s and only about
1/3 of grate covered.
Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
1/3 of grate covered.
Was nice getting loaded straight out of the tipple. No loader, no dust, just creep forward as they motion you to.
- LoschStoker
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I use
L X W X H
cu. ft. X .025 = tons
cu. yd. X .675 = tons
Now I'm sure the weight of a cu. yd. of barley is different then the weight of stove and soft coal is different then hard coal.
But this will get you close. Does anyone have better numbers?
L X W X H
cu. ft. X .025 = tons
cu. yd. X .675 = tons
Now I'm sure the weight of a cu. yd. of barley is different then the weight of stove and soft coal is different then hard coal.
But this will get you close. Does anyone have better numbers?
- davidmcbeth3
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I'm also interested in burning some in SE CT .... to save $$$$
- McGiever
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The differences with Bituminous are a lot more than $$$$$
- davidmcbeth3
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u saying its cheaper to burn antracite v. bit? Please explain if so..McGiever wrote:The differences with Bituminous are a lot more than $$$$$