Illegal to Burn Bituminous Coal?

General topics about using bituminous coal for residential and commercial heating. Pros, cons, and where to get it.
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Post Thu. Oct. 25, 2007 11:31 pm

i would highly doubt there are any restrictions (outside of federal and local/state opacity regulations) that prohibit burning of bituminous coal in connecticut, in a home or otherwise. I would be willing to bet there are hundreds or more businesses, buildings, schools and warehouses that heat/ produce steam with bituminous coal boilers; there are many, many of these installations in mass., NY, NH, NJ and I can just about guarentee you that it is the same in connecticut.
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Post Fri. Oct. 26, 2007 8:24 am

I didn't say you couldn't burn it (bituminous), but that it cannot be sold in CT as a fuel for heating. It is not DEP approved so a dealer cannot legally sell it.

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Post Fri. Oct. 26, 2007 4:27 pm

I call the local DEP office yesterday to find out if these rumors are true.THE main operator patched me to a voice mail.I left a message.They called me back today and there answer was,there is no such restriction in Allegheny Co.The lady told me as long as they don't get too many complaints from neighbors there wouldnt be any problems.

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Post Fri. Oct. 26, 2007 4:50 pm

Nice investigative work painter.
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Post Sat. Oct. 27, 2007 3:56 am

nice work.

the only areas with restrictions in the nation I am aware of are boulder co. which prohibits burning of coal period and manhattan ny which does the same (anthricite, bituminous or not doesn't matter) the rest of the country is fair game, and even manhattan allowes existing situations.
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Post Mon. Oct. 29, 2007 10:57 am

Thanks Painter.

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Post Mon. Oct. 29, 2007 1:46 pm

I found it. CT law prevents anyone from selling any fuel with a content of sulphur higher than 1% by weight. Bituminous coals range from 1-4% sulphur, effectively outlawing the stuff for sale in this state. That is not to say you cannot burn it, just that it cannot be sold as fuel in CT.

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Post Tue. Nov. 06, 2007 10:35 pm

Hi,
I live in Allegheny country Pa, Heres the scoop. The city of Pittburgh banned residentual coal use 40 years ago. But no such ordanance exist in the county.Bituminous coal is very common in Western Pa. I still know several people who have coal furnaces in thier homes. Mostly rural or farms. The Largest undergroud producer of coal in the USA is headquartered in Pittsburgh. CONSOL ENERGY (CNX) Its amazing how many people don't have a clue just how big of a role coal plays in our national energy statagy. 51% of the electricity in our nation is coal fired. BITUMINOUS COAL not Anthracite. 25% of the worlds coal reserves are in the USA. What the middle east is to oil we are to coal. And snce I work for the coal company I purchase house coal for 26-28 dollars per ton and its been burning very nicely in my Harman Mark III for 20 years. I just bought my first ton of anthracite 2 weeks ago at Kimmels coal yard just north of Harrisburg. I'm struggleing to make it work. This stuff is like burning rocks. So many of you guys say its good so I gotta believe. My first post. Sorry for being long winded


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Post Tue. Nov. 06, 2007 11:49 pm

Captain Michael wrote:Hi,
I live in Allegheny country Pa, Heres the scoop. The city of Pittburgh banned residentual coal use 40 years ago. But no such ordanance exist in the county.Bituminous coal is very common in Western Pa. I still know several people who have coal furnaces in thier homes. Mostly rural or farms. The Largest undergroud producer of coal in the USA is headquartered in Pittsburgh. CONSOL ENERGY (CNX) Its amazing how many people don't have a clue just how big of a role coal plays in our national energy statagy. 51% of the electricity in our nation is coal fired. BITUMINOUS COAL not Anthracite. 25% of the worlds coal reserves are in the USA. What the middle east is to oil we are to coal. And snce I work for the coal company I purchase house coal for 26-28 dollars per ton and its been burning very nicely in my Harman Mark III for 20 years. I just bought my first ton of anthracite 2 weeks ago at Kimmels coal yard just north of Harrisburg. I'm struggleing to make it work. This stuff is like burning rocks. So many of you guys say its good so I gotta believe. My first post. Sorry for being long winded
Kimmels coal is not the best Anthracite it is probably one of the worst Quality Of Anthracite you can buy The reason it is like burning rocks is because most of it is rocks If you want the good stuff you will have to go up 15 to 30 miles N W up the Interstate to get the good Anthracite Next Time you are in the area Let me know I will take you to the good coal breakers You will be :D
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Post Thu. Nov. 08, 2007 12:39 am

I plan on being out that way on Sat. to pick up a used Harman I bought on craigs list for my son. I also planned to puschase another ton of coal while I was out there. I had purchased a couple bags of blyshack or something like that last year locally and it burned really well, I'm no brain surgeon but I'm far from stupid and for a guy that don't know squat about hard coal I think this Kimmel coal is crap. If I could get some better stuff I would blend it as I went. I'll be in Chambersburg early Sat mornig and I don't mind driving up to Harrisburg or a little North. OK men help a felloy coal guy out. Who got the good stuff?
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Post Thu. Nov. 08, 2007 1:40 am

Captain Michael wrote:I plan on being out that way on Sat. to pick up a used Harman I bought on craigs list for my son. I also planned to puschase another ton of coal while I was out there. I had purchased a couple bags of blyshack or something like that last year locally and it burned really well, I'm no brain surgeon but I'm far from stupid and for a guy that don't know squat about hard coal I think this Kimmel coal is crap. If I could get some better stuff I would blend it as I went. I'll be in Chambersburg early Sat mornig and I don't mind driving up to Harrisburg or a little North. OK men help a felloy coal guy out. Who got the good stuff?
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Hi Mike check Your PM
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Post Thu. Aug. 21, 2008 8:20 am

Duengeon master wrote:
e.alleg wrote:The Essex steam train is pretty nice ride. I used to live in Moodus just over the river so we went on the excursion a few times including the riverboat ride.
I didn't get to ride the river boat, but driving a truck for a living, and seeing the signs on rt. 95 for the train ride, it was just too tempting to refuse. If you and your family like steam train rides, there are several near us. just pm me I will be happy to get you info!! :)

Pennsylvania has some very nice steam train rides,i happen to run one in bucks county.
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Post Thu. Aug. 21, 2008 4:31 pm

JJLL wrote:I just got into a discussion with a friend about how it is illegal to burn Bituminous Coal anywhere in Allegheny County, PA

He said it was illegal, I said I'd have to find out :)

Is there any truth to this?

Thanks


I wouldn't be worried about it. I have heard these Urban Legends all of my life and I have burned Soft Coal all of my life except for the present simply because I can get Hard Coal. I have challenged anyone making these statements to back them up with evidence and no has ever been able to do so. Mostly people say this out of bias and total ignorance when It comes to coal burning. Make your friend prove himself, otherwise ignore the statement.

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Post Thu. Aug. 21, 2008 5:04 pm

bksaun wrote:I must be warped, I love the smell of coal burning. I think it comes from my love of steam locomotives I new as a child.

Stink! What Stink?

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Post Thu. Aug. 21, 2008 5:18 pm

New Hope Engineer wrote:
Duengeon master wrote:[quote="e.alleg"]The Essex steam train is pretty nice ride. I used to live in Moodus just over the river so we went on the excursion a few times including the riverboat ride.
I didn't get to ride the river boat, but driving a truck for a living, and seeing the signs on rt. 95 for the train ride, it was just too tempting to refuse. If you and your family like steam train rides, there are several near us. just pm me I will be happy to get you info!! :)

Pennsylvania has some very nice steam train rides,i happen to run one in bucks county.
:D[/quote]I have ridden your train a few years agowhat ever happened to that 4-8-4 northern you had there? the ride was awesome!!! Do you guys need an apprintace fireman? I live in Penndel. 20 mi south. do you guys have any excursions planned.
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