New to Coal but Does the Ash Color Change???

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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2008 8:52 pm

I bought a home last year with a coal boiler a efm don't know what model it is. but the coal ash was a grey color. this year had more coal delivered and the ash is brown. Does this matter??? if it does how do I correct it???

Thanks for any help you can give me...

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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2008 9:34 pm

does all the ash appear to be burnt? switching coal sometimes requires a change in air rate
different coal from different veins of coal will have different ash and burn differently.......my ash is a reddish brown......looks like granola when it's burnt

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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2008 9:49 pm

Yes all the coal seams to be burnt. A few pieces of coal are in the ashes but not many. I haven't touched the setting. I just didn't know if the color meant something was wrong. But I guess it's ok if it's different. The guy I had deliver it said it was from south tamaqua coal pocket. I don't know where they got it from before that. When we bought the home the coal room was full to the top so we didn't have to buy it last year and that ash was grey.

Thank you for your help

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Post Tue. Dec. 02, 2008 6:09 am

We'll have to wait for coal berner to answer. Coal from different locations will produce differing colors of ash.
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Post Mon. Dec. 08, 2008 6:20 pm

Hi: Just read you post about ash color.
Iget my coal from a breaker about a mile away from South Tamaqua Pockets, and last year the
ashes were grayish and this year they are a reddish brown color.
So it may have something to do with the veins they are hitting.
If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it?
If you don't like what you see, why don't you fight it?
If you know there's something wrong, why don't you right it?
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Post Tue. Dec. 09, 2008 7:28 am

seems to me that the red/brown ash coal makes more klinkers than white/gray ash coal.

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Post Tue. Dec. 09, 2008 6:45 pm

Yep, your right about the klinkers.
A guy I know uses the same coal I use but in a 700 and he says he gets
clumps and klinkers the size a a softball sometimes.
Over the years I noticed the coal from Luzerne County has grey ash and the further
south to Schuylikll County it varies from grey to reddish/brown.

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If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it?
If you don't like what you see, why don't you fight it?
If you know there's something wrong, why don't you right it?
RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL !............................Trooper

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Post Tue. Dec. 09, 2008 7:00 pm

Last weekend one of my customers called that they were getting a lot of unburnt coal in their ashes (EFM 350). I went over to look at it and there was a clinker the size of Luzerne County jammed up in the back. I reached in with a poker and broke it up. I pulled out her ash bucket to find that it was a big red ash clinker. She had just switched coal suppliers and he said the coal came from a more southern breaker than her usual Hazleton area breaker. For some reason, red ash coal seems to clinker.

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Post Tue. Dec. 09, 2008 7:45 pm

Hey PA Dealer, I don't mind the small clinkers as long as it burns good.
Its from Premium Fine Coal in Clamtown.
Its still better than the coal I got the beginning of last year from
the other breaker over in Stockton. The ash tubs were as heavy as
a tub of 2b stone. I had to blend good with the bad just to get it to burn.
By the way, I heard you did a beautiful job on Willie's change-over to coal. :)

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If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it?
If you don't like what you see, why don't you fight it?
If you know there's something wrong, why don't you right it?
RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL !............................Trooper

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Post Wed. Dec. 10, 2008 7:50 am

Hey Barnzy, yeah I don't mind red ash coal if it burns good. Willy's change over went well, multiple zones, and boiler relocation. He could not wait to get rid of that leaking cast iron oil burner. That 1964 or 65 EFM was purring away. He built a beautiful coal bin in that room, maybe you could get him to post a few pictures. I am putting in a 1965 520 on Thursday. One less oil burner out there.

RY

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Post Wed. Dec. 10, 2008 6:34 pm

RY, I only get to work with will when there is projects at the Markle,
and last week I was with him and forgot to ask how his coal was burning.
He initially got 5 or 6 tons from the same place I get it from
He did say on those frigid days he burnt a good amount.
Will try to get him to post the pictures.

RB
If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it?
If you don't like what you see, why don't you fight it?
If you know there's something wrong, why don't you right it?
RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL !............................Trooper

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Post Wed. Dec. 10, 2008 10:09 pm

RB one thing I noticed about Will's coal is that it was very clean,there was no ore dust.I have to stop by and see how the boilers doing.Just got a line on $100.00 a ton rice :) have to check it out.

RY

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Post Wed. Dec. 10, 2008 10:14 pm

RY I have Zero dust with the coal from these guys. It shines from the time its
dumped till the time the bin is low.

Check Your PM in a little while.
If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it?
If you don't like what you see, why don't you fight it?
If you know there's something wrong, why don't you right it?
RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL, RAISE A LITTLE HELL !............................Trooper

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Post Thu. Dec. 11, 2008 11:20 am

If that 100 a ton rice is from a school in NYC, I know the guy who bought it all.
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Post Thu. Dec. 11, 2008 5:02 pm

stoker-man wrote:If that 100 a ton rice is from a school in NYC, I know the guy who bought it all.


No, its from a bank reclaim breaker in my neck of the woods.I have to pick it up, but no problem with that, I use a one ton Chevy dump with a chute door in the center of the gate. Its a little extra work but being that im cheap by nature I don't mind.

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