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AmericanRiceBurner
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Post by AmericanRiceBurner » Wed. Dec. 20, 2023 10:52 pm

Hey all. New here to the forum and coal heat. Acquired a property with a K12. Currently running the oil backup. I am a heating technician so I am familiar with all things boiler controls except for the feed timer. Looking for a quality rice coal source and about how much per ton. Some service tips would be greatly appreciated. Looks as it’s been neglected in past years. Location near Schuylkill Haven PA. Thanks!

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Thu. Dec. 21, 2023 7:50 am

You're not terrible far from Sherman Coal, leastwise not as far as I am. I've been burning their rice for the last month and am very pleased with it, you can check these two threads for more info Sherman coal delivered or Sherman coal Previously I burnt Blashak and it did well. The Sherman rice is a touch larger size wise. :yes: Oh and welcome to the forum!

 
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Post by Richard S. » Thu. Dec. 21, 2023 10:26 am

AmericanRiceBurner wrote:
Wed. Dec. 20, 2023 10:52 pm
Some service tips would be greatly appreciated.

Generally speaking coal boilers are low maintenance.

The most important thing is clearing the connector pipes of fly ash. With a larger boiler like yours typically once a year. Fly ash is going to accumulate in horizontal runs of the connector pipes. When you open the pipes at the end of the season you might find an inch of ash more or less. Make sure to also remove accumulated fly ash from the chimney clean out, quick check up the chimney with a mirror to make sure there is no obstructions. Generally speaking no maintenance on the chimney required.

Since you are new to the boiler if you don't know when the last time the pipes were cleaned I'd check them ASAP.

If you are running year round with a domestic hot water coil consider T's instead of elbows because they can give you access to clean them without disassembly.

If you are shutting it down at the end of the season, fully disassemble the connector pipes and wash the inside with a solution of baking soda and water. This will help neutralize the acids and extend the life of the pipes. Some people will do this with the insides of their stoves but I'm not sure how useful or practical it is with a large boiler. You can stick a 60 watt lightbulb inside the unit to help mitigate humidity issues inside the boiler during long downtimes.

Oil you motors if they have oil plugs , chains etc, but I guess you already knew that.

I don't know if there is anything specific with that unit but someone else will chime in with whatever it is. The manual is available on Keystokers website.

The oil is nice feature if for example you are going away on vacation in the winter but just be aware coal boilers are typically not very efficient with oil. They are built to burn coal efficiently.

 
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Post by lzaharis » Thu. Dec. 21, 2023 12:10 pm

I have attached a copy of the newest keystoker boiler manual for your use.

You should contact keystoker for a copy of the old boiler manual for your
k-12 boiler and provide them with the serial number of your k-12.

The keystoker boilers can burn either Rice Anthracite Coal or Buckwheat
Anthracite coal.

When and if you switch over to coal you should remove the oil burner
and reinstall the cover plate as the fly ash will corrode the burner oil
tube and destroy the nozzle-I learned that lesson the hard way after doing
what was recommended by keystoker when switching from oil to coal
for fuel as filling the burner tube with insulation to protect the nozzle and
electrodes does not work.

Do not hesitate to install a smaller .50 oil nozzle in the oil burner head as the oil
burner flame from combustion will fill the fire box and expand very quickly and
burn hot in any case as the steam chest and water wall will absorb the heat
from the flue gasses before they are pushed under and through the baffle
plate to the flue breech and chimney pipe.

If your oil burner is equipped as a two pipe system all the better, if it is a single
pipe system you should convert it to a two pipe system as the oil burner will run
more efficiently and if you use a .50 nozzle you will save on fuel.

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Post by AmericanRiceBurner » Thu. Dec. 21, 2023 11:14 pm

Thank you Bunker, I’ll look into Sherman. I didn’t just want to run right to reading anthracite as all things point to.
Thank you Richard, I like the light bulb idea as I will be shutting the unit down for summer season. I will keep all this in mind when I get to service it.
Thank you Iza, I had called Keystoker with the serial to find out my model and age. I’ll have to call back about a specific manual. As for the efm oil gun on it was trashed and missing parts. I was able to retro fit an afg L1 head Beckett donor burner from a New Yorker boiler I converted to gas. One pipe with a tiger loop spin on filter. Better yet then a true two piper. Runs super smooth and efficient as possible for the time being.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 12:24 am

Reading Anthra-wood they should call it

 
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Post by Richard S. » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 6:00 am

lincolnmania wrote:
Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 12:24 am
Reading Anthra-wood they should call it
When they are stripping they often encounter old mines. Miss a couple pieces of wood and it turns into millions of pieces of wood when it goes through the crusher. It can't be feasibly separated at that point. Per pound the BTU's are about the same assuming the wood is reasonably dry so a small amount of wood is not a huge deal.

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 7:06 am

Richard S. wrote:
Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 6:00 am
so a small amount of wood is not a huge deal.
Except when it's just big enough to bind the auger and shear a pin... :?


 
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Post by lincolnmania » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 10:12 am

BunkerdCaddis wrote:
Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 7:06 am
Except when it's just big enough to bind the auger and shear a pin... :?
This^ Except one of my room mates replaced the shear pin with a nail and It broke an auger.

 
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Post by lzaharis » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 11:56 am

I am unsure if Blashack or the other mining operations are entering the
old mines to remove railroad rail and rail ties when they strip open and
expose the old mines room and pillar operations under the existing
bedrock they strip to expose the anthracite coal pillars they will strip
out for the Anthracite Coal they sell.

When they are stripping overburden off the old Anthracite mines to reclaim
the anthracite coal pillars is the time when they do the most damage to the
reclaimed coal they are mining because they are quite often destroying the
wood cribbing used to support the roof (if used) is broken and then the
Anthracite Coal is ripped out by the crawler draglines when they break up
the anthracite Coal pillars that were left to support the back(mine roof).

I have found creosoted slivers/pieces of wood which obviously were the remains of
the reclaimed wooden railroad ties and the track that was used by the coal mine
operators for their battery or single conductor pantograph powered electric locomotives
to haul coal out of the older anthracite mines.

I am unsure if these strip miners are using picking belts to remove any rock or wood debris
during the sizing and screening of the Anthracite Coal they are reclaiming.

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 1:38 pm

lincolnmania wrote:
Fri. Dec. 22, 2023 10:12 am
This^ Except one of my room mates replaced the shear pin with a nail and It broke an auger.
I bought a 3' piece of brass rod and just cut a section off of it as needed, I ran all last year with out having to replace it. I think most of the wood does get cut up by the auger or just flows through.

 
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Post by Den034071 » Sun. Dec. 24, 2023 12:32 pm

Sent you a P M message jack Top right right corner of page jack

 
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Post by Den034071 » Sun. Dec. 24, 2023 3:30 pm

Am Any Hazleton Coal Is Very Excellent .Note Atlantic Coal Company now owns Hazleton Shaft Stockton an Jeddo Coal surface strippings .All 3 are walking distance apart and the coal veins Are Intersected .Jack

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