AHS S130 ASME/UL VS non Asme

Hey all, wanted some input on the S130. We have burned oil since moving in to our home in 2019. It has an oil boiler and an old 1984 burnham wood/coal boiler that needs pulled out, but id like to replace it with a newer unit. I did consider the woodgun, but after some thought given the ability to get a wood boiler in our lower boiler room and the prices we have been leaning to the coal gun. I have 2 used S130s relatively close that are fore sale that i may consider. One is a 2008 model (round hopper), and the other a 2010 model (square hopper). The 2010 has the ASME cert, but I cant find anything on the difference aside from the wiring. Both appear to be in fantastic shape and are belt driven. The 2010 model they are asking $1000 more than the 2008, just Wanted some input on if I should consider one over the other, or if the non ASME would be worth it. Thanks!

Where you at, location wise ?

Many people here have such appliances and may offer their input. If you don't many responses its likely because many don't visit the forum frequently during summer.

I don't have such an appliance....welcome to the forum

davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 4:30 pm

Where you at, location wise ?

Many people here have such appliances and may offer their input. If you don't many responses its likely because many don't visit the forum frequently during summer.

I don't have such an appliance....welcome to the forum

Crap i meant to put that. Located in southwestern PA, about 35 minutes west of pittsburgh

Unless you have a code or insurance requirement for the ASME stamp, I would get the less expensive model.

I installed a used S130 last winter at a friends house. They put out an impressive amount of heat for a relatively small footprint.

Rob R. wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 5:08 pm

Unless you have a code or insurance requirement for the ASME stamp, I would get the less expensive model.

I installed a used S130 last winter at a friends house. They put out an impressive amount of heat for a relatively small footprint.

Thanks rob. I dont think its required. Our insurance noted the old wood/coal boiler on our insurance documents. I actually followed up last year regarding removing it and upgrading to a newer/safer alternative heat if i would still be covered in the event of a fire in which case they said i was. I just wasnt sure if that stamp was worth it from an efficiency or if it was more robust

Jbdpayne wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 4:40 pm

Crap i meant to put that. Located in southwestern PA, about 35 minutes west of pittsburgh

Are you able to get anthracite coal where you are? You might want to do the math and pricing before investing in such a fine unit.

Retro_Origin wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 6:28 pm

Are you able to get anthracite coal where you are? You might want to do the math and pricing before investing in such a fine unit.

Yes sir. Made a few calls and we have a dealer at heat inc in washington pa. Have a couple more calls to make as well to confirm other sources. Forgot to include as well along with burning oil since we moved in, we are in a multilevel home with hydronic baseboard heating 2900 sq ft. We have a LOT of piping, but the house itself is probably over insulated (the old owner built it). But, we have been using about 1000 gallons of heating oil from mid to late november to mid april to heat the home. Last year may have pushed 1200.

Jbdpayne wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 5:34 pm

Thanks rob. I dont think its required. Our insurance noted the old wood/coal boiler on our insurance documents. I actually followed up last year regarding removing it and upgrading to a newer/safer alternative heat if i would still be covered in the event of a fire in which case they said i was. I just wasnt sure if that stamp was worth it from an efficiency or if it was more robust

My insurance company requires disclosure of wood burning appliances only; nothing about coal fueled ones. Hence, I did not inform them of my coal stove. All in the details. If one has a wood burning stove maybe they would not want to cover the house at all.

Jbdpayne wrote: ↑

Tue. Aug. 01, 2023 6:44 pm

Yes sir. Made a few calls and we have a dealer at heat inc in washington pa. Have a couple more calls to make as well to confirm other sources. Forgot to include as well along with burning oil since we moved in, we are in a multilevel home with hydronic baseboard heating 2900 sq ft. We have a LOT of piping, but the house itself is probably over insulated (the old owner built it). But, we have been using about 1000 gallons of heating oil from mid to late november to mid april to heat the home. Last year may have pushed 1200.

Plan on burning about 6 tons of coal per season. If you want to reduce your heating costs, focus on drafts/air leaks.

davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑

Wed. Aug. 02, 2023 3:30 pm

My insurance company requires disclosure of wood burning appliances only; nothing about coal fueled ones. Hence, I did not inform them of my coal stove. All in the details. If one has a wood burning stove maybe they would not want to cover the house at all.

Wood burning appliances definitely set off the alarm bells. My insurance company wasn't concerned at all that I have a coal boiler.

Rob R. wrote: ↑

Wed. Aug. 02, 2023 3:43 pm

Plan on burning about 6 tons of coal per season. If you want to reduce your heating costs, focus on drafts/air leaks.



Wood burning appliances definitely set off the alarm bells. My insurance company wasn't concerned at all that I have a coal boiler.

Thanks Rob, ill be finishing up our heating oil just so it doesnt go to waste, but i plan on ordering a ton of pea to have in the garage and work in to using it so we are comfortable next year. I ended up picking that 2008 model up on Friday, looks pretty clean, one owner, plenty of spare parts. Ill be working on getting it down to our lower boiler room this week and removing the old burnham

Hey all, was fortunate to have my neighbor help with the install somce hebhas his own business. Had a few issues sealing the 4" domestic coil connection, but ended up using hi temp hercules gasket maker and a 36" to tighten it enough. Plumbing and wiring are complete, should be firing it up next month once the temps drop a bit more