The Allen stoker

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Idlorah
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
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Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Thu. Nov. 10, 2022 12:44 am

I had a previous post in here from when I first joined and was learning all I could about coal boilers. Since then I was updating the old thread which was kind of misleading so here we are the good Ole Allen stoker gets it own thread for the current happenings.


Tonight when I got home from work doing my normal routine went down the check the stoker and only had a red spot the size of a quarter. Noticed the shear pin had broke for the screw. Probably
my own fault i just had a random 8/32 bolt in it but Quick fix non the less but by the time I got it done I had lost fire. Just got it re lit.
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Location: New Ringgold, PA
Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 6:33 pm

Had to work on the Allen today on Sunday night I came home and realized the house was @ 69 degrees instead of the 72 I had it set for. Went down to check it out the reset button on the motor was popped up. Pushed it back in and it ran fine until sometime today. I was getting ready to leave for work when doing my daily routine went down to check on it I opened up the door to check the fire and that's when I only saw about a 3" diameter fire. (my pot has a 16" ash ring) so I knew something was up. The reset button popped again. So I decided to swap motors with the spare I have. Last year I took a trip up to Mt Carmel PA and was able to purchase an entire stoker unit from someone who removed an Allen for a gas furnace. :no1: Any way got it swapped and we are good to go now. This motor even runs quieter then the last, the stoker assembly that I got last year also has a different coupling setup then what was on my boiler. My boiler had a custom motor with an extended shaft and standard love joy connection. Where as the parts stoker has a standard shaft length motor and a longer spider for the coupling. Here are a few pictures
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New/old motor I just installed

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Motor on stoker unit

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Motor I took off

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Fire coming back to life

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Sad looking coal bin. 3 ton of sherman buck coming tomorrow when I go pick it up.

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Post by Retro_Origin » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 7:43 pm

Can you take a full picture of the boiler? Curious what the whole thing looks like!

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
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Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 8:50 pm

This is my original thread. lots of pictures on here
Looking for information on my Allen stoker

 
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Post by Rob R. » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 9:11 pm

You did well by finding a complete stoker for parts.

If you would like to get another motor for a spare, you can order one direct from Marathon: https://www.marathon-motors.com/O601-1-6-HP-1725- ... r-O601.htm

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 9:32 pm

L , glad to see you back, and your Allen is doing well. You were smart to save her ,

I just stuffed one under my old International boiler this weekend. She burns nice . The Allens are simple well built American iron .

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 10:42 pm

Dave 1234 wrote:
Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 9:32 pm
L , glad to see you back, and your Allen is doing well. You were smart to save her ,

I just stuffed one under my old International boiler this weekend. She burns nice . The Allens are simple well built American iron .
That they are, I try my best to find any parts for these stokers to keep mine going.


 
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Location: New Ringgold, PA
Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 12:07 am

Retro_Origin wrote:
Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 7:43 pm
Can you take a full picture of the boiler? Curious what the whole thing looks like!
Don't know if you caught this.
Looking for information on my Allen stoker

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 12:18 am

Rob R. wrote:
Tue. Dec. 06, 2022 9:11 pm
You did well by finding a complete stoker for parts.

If you would like to get another motor for a spare, you can order one direct from Marathon: https://www.marathon-motors.com/O601-1-6-HP-1725- ... r-O601.htm
Probably not a bad idea Rob, the only real issue I have ever had with this boiler is the drive motors. My first year living here the one on it went out. Then I couldn't buy one off the shelf and had to get it custom which took a month. (Someone converted this to take one with a 4" motor shaft) luckily a local ship was able to get my original one back up and running. 2nd heating season at my house the original started making noise so I swap for the brand new one. That only lasts a few months (my own fault to much thrust on the shaft because of lovejoy connection. Swap back to original again. Then I took my new motor to work to examine it. The tail end bronze bushing wore out. So I machined a new one and bench tested it. It was good so I swapped it back on and that brings us to current day. And now to end my rambling on post. I may take my 2 long shaft motors to the electrical shop and get them rebuilt. Or just buy new.

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 7:51 am

L , this summer I did some test runs in the driveway to see what was needed to burn a load of hi-iron coal in an Allen . While doing the tests the coal was grinding , I found the ID of the old auger tube was built up with scale, that caused lots of drag and made the motor work hard.

Also the first ring was potruding into the goose neck on the back side so the coal had a hard time flowing into the pot.

Turning the auger by hand showed where to resistances were located .

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 12:28 pm

Dave 1234 wrote:
Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 7:51 am
L , this summer I did some test runs in the driveway to see what was needed to burn a load of hi-iron coal in an Allen .
Dave, you have an Allen to? I felt as if I was the only one.

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 12:29 pm

Went out to sherman this morning for a load of buck. 2.15 ton added to the bin. Should hold me over for a little while.
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Post by Dave 1234 » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 1:51 pm

Idlorah wrote:
Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 12:28 pm
Dave, you have an Allen to? I felt as if I was the only one.
Yup! My friend had three , just parts stokers, that I bought a few years back.

You were smart to save yours . They burn very well .

 
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Allen 700 stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibralter MCC
Coal Size/Type: Buck in the Allen and anything goes in the MCC, Anthracite
Other Heating: None, maybe some wood in the MCC in the shoulder season

Post by Idlorah » Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 4:57 pm

Thats great to know there are more out there then mine. you definitely don't see them now a days they are getting rare. Just out of curiosity how much do you know about these stokers? I know mine has a 16" top ash ring the stoker unit I bought for parts looks to be smaller. Did they sell these stokers in multiple sizes?

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Thu. Dec. 08, 2022 9:50 am

Idlorah wrote:
Wed. Dec. 07, 2022 4:57 pm
Thats great to know there are more out there then mine. you definitely don't see them now a days they are getting rare. Just out of curiosity how much do you know about these stokers? I know mine has a 16" top ash ring the stoker unit I bought for parts looks to be smaller. Did they sell these stokers in multiple sizes?
L, If you take the top ring off that you made , and pull the burn plates out , that next section captures the ball bearings and will swap with the small one you bought. That will drop the unit down in depth and width of the coal bed .

But I can't see any reason to do that .


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