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Post by hardcoalhardcore » Wed. Oct. 19, 2022 2:20 pm

Has anyone ever run corn or wood pellets through a 520? I know some use a 50/50 corn coal mix, but has anyone ran just straight corn or pellets? I'm going to go broke this winter with the price of anthracite!! FJB

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Post by Retro_Origin » Wed. Oct. 19, 2022 5:26 pm

hardcoalhardcore wrote:
Wed. Oct. 19, 2022 2:20 pm
Has anyone ever run corn or wood pellets through a 520? I know some use a 50/50 corn coal mix, but has anyone ran just straight corn or pellets? I'm going to go broke this winter with the price of anthracite!! FJB

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If your in the skook your near two breakers that are at $200/ton, Sherman and Superior, someone just posted recently getting from Jeddo at less than 250

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Oct. 19, 2022 5:58 pm

Jeddo is $198 according to the last report I saw.

 
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Post by hardcoalhardcore » Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 7:07 pm

Who delivers residential from the Jeddo mine to Tamaqua?

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 9:55 pm

hardcoalhardcore wrote:
Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 7:07 pm
Who delivers residential from the Jeddo mine to Tamaqua?
If someone had a truck, was willing to run 8 to 10 ton from any three of those mines (Jeddo, Sherman and Superior) to much of central Pa and made it known on the forum they'd be busy most all winter.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 10:46 pm

BunkerdCaddis wrote:
Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 9:55 pm
If someone had a truck, was willing to run 8 to 10 ton from any three of those mines (Jeddo, Sherman and Superior) to much of central Pa and made it known on the forum they'd be busy most all winter.
you could rent a small dump truck, quick search of lancaster county showed they cost about 275 a day to rent. 3 ton the f-550 holds. says it has a coal chute.

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Sat. Oct. 22, 2022 8:34 am

lincolnmania wrote:
Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 10:46 pm
you could rent a small dump truck, quick search of lancaster county showed they cost about 275 a day to rent. 3 ton the f-550 holds. says it has a coal chute.
Well, I was really making more of an observation... but that is an idea as well.


 
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Post by waytomany?s » Sat. Oct. 22, 2022 8:49 am

I'm not a math wiz, how much would you have to move with that setup to be cost effective? $275 plus taxes, etc. And fuel costs. I guess it would still be cheaper than Lehigh per ton.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Sat. Oct. 22, 2022 11:25 am

waytomany?s wrote:
Sat. Oct. 22, 2022 8:49 am
I'm not a math wiz, how much would you have to move with that setup to be cost effective? $275 plus taxes, etc. And fuel costs. I guess it would still be cheaper than Lehigh per ton.
My coal man is getting 380 a ton for blaschak now. 300 for truck rental, 6 tons of coal (2 trips) 200 ton for coal 200 for fuel, that comes out to $1700. 6 tons delivered $2280

But the risk is renting the truck and unable to get 2 or more loads in due to shortages.

I gotta get a newer truck that can haul a ton and get decent mpg and a small trailer with brakes that can haul a ton or two.

 
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Post by Sylvesterd101 » Sun. Oct. 23, 2022 9:12 am

damn jeddo, gotta find info on that for that price. lehigh has been destroying me

 
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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Oct. 23, 2022 1:11 pm

To answer the original question stoker-man posted on this in the past with EFM recommendations.
The EFM 520 Stoker-Boiler Qualifies for a $1500 Tax Credit
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Instructions for Burning biomass Fuel in the efm DF520 Multi-fuel and the AF150 Multi-fuel Furnace:

The biomass fuel that has proved best for use in the efm DF520 and AF150 is a mix of dried corn and wood pellets. A mix of 30% corn and 70% pellets is recommended. The initial feed setting should be 10 teeth of feed and an air setting of 2 or 3. There is very light smoke emitted from the chimney. The fire burns cleaner at an air setting of 3, but is slightly less efficient than a setting of 2. Mixtures of 40% corn/60% pellets also burn well, but require slightly more air and therefore will be slightly less efficient. 50% corn/50% pellets also burn in the stoker.

50% corn/50% coal mixes have been used successfully in the past. There are plans for future testing for mixing other grains with pellets, such as the waste products from a granary operation.

 
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Post by Idlorah » Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 5:52 pm

BunkerdCaddis wrote:
Fri. Oct. 21, 2022 9:55 pm
If someone had a truck, was willing to run 8 to 10 ton from any three of those mines (Jeddo, Sherman and Superior) to much of central Pa and made it known on the forum they'd be busy most all winter.
To everyone on here I have my own dump truck and I live about 40 min from sherman coal. I could probably fit around 3-4 ton on my truck and would be more then happy to help out fellow forum members!

 
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Post by Idlorah » Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 6:00 pm

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Idlorah wrote:
Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 5:52 pm
To everyone on here I have my own dump truck and I live about 40 min from sherman coal. I could probably fit around 3-4 ton on my truck and would be more then happy to help out fellow forum members!
If your bin is set up where I can back up to it with this and get it down your chute hole I would be more then happy to help.
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Post by Retro_Origin » Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 6:16 pm

Idlorah wrote:
Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 5:52 pm
To everyone on here I have my own dump truck and I live about 40 min from sherman coal. I could probably fit around 3-4 ton on my truck and would be more then happy to help out fellow forum members!
Prepare to be swamped! This is a really kind offer. I wish I had a classB and a truck, I'd love to do the same!

 
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Post by BunkerdCaddis » Mon. Oct. 24, 2022 6:42 pm

Richard S. wrote:
Sun. Oct. 23, 2022 1:11 pm
To answer the original question stoker-man posted on this in the past with EFM recommendations.
The EFM 520 Stoker-Boiler Qualifies for a $1500 Tax Credit
So doing some quick simple math... and using the fuel Comparison Calculator, corn@$7.00 local cash price is $273/ton is $2206 1mBTU. wood pellets at HD cost $308/ton is $2488 1mBTU. Coal at $400/ton is $2000 1mBTU... Why you would bother diverting still mash into your coal stove is beyond me :eh:


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