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Post by McGiever » Tue. Mar. 22, 2022 8:07 pm

Guess we were both typing at the same time. 😆

It is very important to realize that the auger type used is not a positive displacement. It is actually a helix and not a screw at all.
Helix has a hollow center core unlike a screw auger.

When there is no auger coal taken away by gravity the helix tumbles the coal inside the tube sorta like your clothes dryer tumbles your laundry. Pretty neat!!


 
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Post by metallica21156 » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 6:08 am

Yes i understand that as well but if the auger feed more then then needed wouldn't the auger get stuck or am i missing something here?

 
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Post by swyman » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 7:12 am

metallica21156 wrote:
Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 6:08 am
Yes i understand that as well but if the auger feed more then then needed wouldn't the auger get stuck or am i missing something here?
The center of the auger is hollow, I think it's around 1 1/2" DIA hollow through the auger. The coal is fed by the auger to the top of the transfer head where is becomes a gravity feed from there. Once the transfer head is full the augered coal rolls back down inside that hollow center since there is nowhere else for it to go.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 7:33 am

It can't overfeed if that's what your worried about. Any excess just tumbles back down the auger throat.

 
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Post by metallica21156 » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 8:14 am

I did not know that. I thought it was solid. I wonder if the new model to feed the hopper is same design or solid.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 10:24 am

If it was solid it wouldn't work as intended. It would choke up and stall would be my guess. I doubt they would sell something that wouldn't work in the application.

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 10:43 am

metallica21156 wrote:
Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 6:08 am
Yes i understand that as well but if the auger feed more then then needed wouldn't the auger get stuck or am i missing something here?
Nothing gets stuck. The tube acts like a two way conveyor.


 
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Post by McGiever » Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 10:05 pm

AHS/Eshland Auger added on for filling hopper is NOT helix auger but rather ordinary grain type auger. This has a pair of proximity sensor switches to start and to stop the auger in order to maintain the level of raw coal added to the hopper.

Hopper behaves the same as any other hopper on a coal boiler without a auger feeding it.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Mar. 25, 2022 8:34 pm

My old eshland setup is a ordinary auger that feeds into my hopper.

 
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Post by Jkohanski » Sat. Mar. 26, 2022 6:20 am

Here is cutaway of axeman tube.
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A hopper feed tube is solid in center, which is AHS or any gravity hopper feed setup.
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Post by Jkohanski » Sat. Mar. 26, 2022 6:28 am

The hollow type auger flighting is used in the livestock feed industry, but moving corn is not like coal. But you can look up Chortime flex auger system. Gets pricey pretty quick.

 
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Post by lzaharis » Sat. Mar. 26, 2022 12:13 pm

metallica21156 wrote:
Wed. Mar. 23, 2022 8:14 am
I did not know that. I thought it was solid. I wonder if the new model to feed the hopper is same design or solid.
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The Westfield Utility Grain Augers are solid grain augers in 4",6", 8",10" and 13 inch diameters.

It can be equipped with a flight support bearing to support the open auger.
The sheilded intake assembly bolts to the end of the basic drive section and the adjustable feed control consists of a sliding gate to control the intake of material.

The Westfield Utility grain augers in the four inch size have a base length of 11 feet and the length can be increased to 16 feet
in length with a 5 foot extension or 21 feet in length with a 10 foot extension.

The Westfield Utility grain augers have a top head drive belt design with a single V belt V belt pulley and a flexible spout.

The adjustable electric motor mount is supplied as standard equipment.

The electric motor and electric motor drive pulley must be supplied by the purchaser.
A poly hopper for the auger intake is also available as an option.

The power cable and power control switches used to control the auger are not supplied by Westfield and must be supplied by the purchaser.

The pre lubricated shielded V belt pulley supplied by Westfield is a 1A 8 inch single groove pulley and an A33 V belt is supplied as standard equipment.

They state in thier literature a smaller pulley for the electric motor can be used with the grain auger when it is used on an intermittant basis for a reduced load upon the start up of the electric motor.

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Post by Cdawg » Thu. Apr. 28, 2022 9:21 pm

This is my eshland, from whistle stop, looks like it had the auger and was removed and replaced with the hopper. I would like to find the original setup!!
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Post by McGiever » Fri. Apr. 29, 2022 10:12 am

Yup! Looks like it is doable.

I’ll tel you though, for Axemans, the augers are match fitted when built meaning that both the boiler and the auger carry the same serial number. But I’d venture a guess that a replacement wouldn’t be too far off from being made to fit.

Next question is can you place a barrel or bin where a auger will fit to?

 
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Post by StokerDon » Fri. Apr. 29, 2022 6:44 pm

Cdawg wrote:
Thu. Apr. 28, 2022 9:21 pm
This is my eshland, from whistle stop, looks like it had the auger and was removed and replaced with the hopper. I would like to find the original setup!!
Thanks for those S130 Auger setup pics Cdawg! Now I have 4.

That is a beautiful Whistlenut creation you have there!

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