Stoker boiler or furnace new price?

So not knowing the first thing about stokers other than the shzit ton of monkey motion, why does there seem to be quite a viable “rebuilt” market?

Is it because the cost of a new one is prohibitive?

I ask because it seems none of the mfg’s list prices.

So, what does a new AHS S130 cost? Not the install, just the boiler.

scalabro wrote: ↑

Sun. Dec. 29, 2019 2:13 pm

So not knowing the first thing about stokers other than the shzit ton of monkey motion, why does there seem to be quite a viable “rebuilt” market?

Is it because the cost of a new one is prohibitive?

The new ones aren't cheap, and many/most of the old ones were built to last a very long time, so people with enough expertise can find and recondition used equipment that will provide substantial further life for a fraction of the cost of new stuff.

Mike

scalabro wrote: ↑

Sun. Dec. 29, 2019 2:13 pm

So, what does a new AHS S130 cost? Not the install, just the boiler.

IIRC the tour leader at AHS said they were around $5000 (could have been more) for just the boiler model S130.

I would guess that the rebuilt/second hand market is so appealing because the boiler price is just the beginning, especially starting from scratch. Even though I only spent $500 for the AA130 boiler itself, there really isn't another place to save when it comes to piping, BB rads, circulators, ect. Most or all that stuff needs to be new. Then add installation cost if you can't do it yourself. I've got roughly $4000 into everything so far, which is fine ROI will be relatively fast. But imagine buying a new boiler with professional installation, 12 grand? More? A lot more? I have no idea lol

No matter what brand you prefer, most of the old school stoker boilers share two things in common: They were built “hell for stout” and the few wear parts are all available and easily replaced.

The largest factor in a used boiler is the condition of the boiler itself. If it was properly cared for and maintained throughout its life, it will give decades more service in nearly all instances. New bases for the boiler can be built or purchased and the burners reconditioned with new grates and wear parts. If the old aqua-stats or other electrical parts are in good working order they can be used again or new ones purchased as well. All this goes into building a machine that will offer the same great service for 2/3 or 1/2 the cost of new.

There are 4 stoker boilers on the property here that we keep going all Winter long, none of which we purchased new. The oldest one was manufactured in the early 1960’s and the newest is my 1991 model.

Thanks fellas

Just like an antique hand feed stove. Doing it's thing for 140+ years.

i was looking into a new hot air furnace for the house, then a new stoker boiler.

the hot air furnaces started around 2800 dollars for one on the smaller side (glorified stove with a stronger blower) a dedicated hot air coal furnace was about 5500 and up.

i priced a few new coal boilers, the leisure line and the ahs 130 were the lowest price. the efm and the ab van wert are probably the most expensive.

i am going with the partially reconditioned stoker boiler route.

a reconditioned used efm 520 goes for between 2000 and 3500 depending on options. the square door efm 520's with the oil option are the most expensive used.

I picked up my eshland 260 (now AHS 260) for $600, it’s a 1984, all original, all I did was purchased the $30 digital PID controller for a fancier way to control the ashing motor. You can’t beat that. I think a new one is like $12,000?

My Keystoker KAA-4-1 dual fuel unit was around $5600, not including the oil gun.

Total install, including the boiler, completely redesigning the 1st floor radiation, installing a garage zone, pumps, pipes, controls, chimney repair and lining, etc came to around $14k. That’s with me doing 3/4 of the work. Still cheaper (by around $7k) than the wood gasifier I had been planning to install, and a hell of a lot less work.

I went new due to insurance requirements.

my dad never told the insurance agent he switched to oil in 1971.....the 1967 efm 350 is perfect because my dad bought the house in 1968 lol.

A new EFM S20 is about 12,700 dollars by uncle just bought a new one in the fall wouldn't hear of a refurbished one

Dakotaguy wrote: ↑

Wed. Jan. 01, 2020 6:16 pm

A new EFM S20 is about 12,700 dollars by uncle just bought a new one in the fall wouldn't hear of a refurbished one

This with oil and controls?
That’s makes me feel better about spending 4000$ on mine.
I have around 7000$ total into my install.

No oil kit just the stoker boiler base covers dhw triple aquastat timer

I purchased a used/new AHS130 this year. It had been previously purchased but never installed or fired...sort of sat in a basement for years. Eventually the owners sold it back to AHS. They went over the unit to make sure it was in great shape, and they sold it to me for $4900. I did the install myself and had about $1500 tied up in piping, circulators, controls, etc. Total cost start to finish around $6400. Sounds like a lot to me until I realize that the unit will pay itself off in 4-5 years time max.

I will be posting a 5 year old Leisure Line AA-220 boiler as soon as I get pics.