AA-130 Need Advice Before Firing It up.

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yutyoy
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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2008 1:32 pm

I am trying to get this ol girl up and runnin. it sat for about two years before I moved in. I cleaned it all up, including all the ashes and excess coal that was in the fire box. so its clean right down to the grate. it seems like a long way down to the grate from the viewing hole (where I assume I light it). I read that it should be filled about halfway with ash. can I start it empty and let the ash build up? or should I aquire some ashes from someone and dump them in? might sound like a dumb question, but im still a coal nube. ThAnX guys!

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2008 1:52 pm

Yutyoy,

First off,

Have you cleaned and lubed everything ?????

The ash pan sets on some bearings and since you have it emptied, now would be a good time to lube them up and make sure they are really spinning freely. It's a lot easier to work on the unit while it is cold.

I think it would be better to get some ash and then light the fire on top of it. I've never emptied our ash pan completely.

I just put in some kindling from the woodshop, place it on some paper and light it. Get the wood burning well and add some coal on top of it. Get that burning and add some more coal. I sometimes have plugged in the combustion fan to an extension cord to get the coal firing well. Then remove the extension cord, plug the fan in to where it is supposed to be and turn that puppy on. It will probably take a good hour to get the thing well fired and the coal feed topped off.

Feel free to PM me and we could talk it through.

Rick

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2008 2:24 pm

I don't have mine yet, so thi sis hear-say. A dealer told me he always took a gallon or two of ash....wood ash if no caol ash available...and filled that space. I'm also thinking I read someplace that you don't need to use ash, but you'll lose some coal to the ashpan. I plan on lighting mine once in it's life. If I lose a gallon of coal to the ash pan, so be it, or, sift!

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yutyoy
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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2008 2:41 pm

i got a buddy who has some extra coal ash and he said I could have it. think ill hit him up on that offer

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2008 4:14 pm

Hello yutyoy, did you throw away all the old ash and partially burnt coal when you cleaned off the grate?? That is what you want to dump onto the grate and start a fire on top of.
I agree that now is the time to crawl under the boiler, reach through the ashpan door, and move the grate back and forth on the rollers, there are four of them at each corner of the grate. These steel rollers tend to stick then the grate grinds them flat.. take a look at the photo below..

You may need to order some from AA, or PM me and I'll see how much I can make another 4 rollers for.

Check your PM's for some .PDF literature and info.

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Post Thu. Jul. 17, 2008 12:57 am

the Axeman Anderson "kindle packs" work very well for starting a fire in the AA. they cost about a buck each from the factory. They consist of a bag of charcoal bits, newspaper shavings and magnesium shavings. I also read on this forum that a tight five gallon pail filled with wood chips bagged in cheese cloth and one cup of kerosene or lamp oil will make dozens of fire starters.

The instructions to start a new Anthratube fire are: add a pail or two of coal through the coal head. (ashes work too but will be messy. If you don't want to waste 20lbs of coal you can reclaim it from the ash bucket later; less messy.). leave 3 or 4 inches of space between the top of the coal in the combustion chamber and the coal tube. replace coal head cover. Drop a kindle pack or two down the site tube. place some coal on top of that to cover. prop up the lever that advances the grate to prevent shake. light the kindle pack(s). energize the anthratube electrical system. In about 30-40 minutes you should have a good fire and 20 gallons of 180degF water (130-m). Don't forget to remove the prop from the grate lever. then crack open a cold one in honor of the coaled one (you). :)

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Post Thu. Jul. 17, 2008 8:48 am

i like the fire starter idea! good idea.

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Post Thu. Jul. 17, 2008 8:58 am

I've used kindling to start my AA260,, it does take a lot of kindling, several handfulls... I use splits off of a 2x4 or 2x6, about 6" long and about 1/2" - 1" thick. wad up several pieces of newspaper, and cover the paper with the kindling.. prop the ashing lever up so the grate won't move, light the paper, and start the combustion fan,,, the fan is so powerfull that it can pull the flame out of the firepot.. so use the inspection port door to control the draft pulling through the kindling.. once the fire is going well, start adding a few handfulls of coal over the kindling,, leaving it loose enough to let air through, and keep the heat high in the fire... in a few minutes add some more coal,, soon you will have a large bed of red coal and the auger will be adding coal to the top of the fire.. You can remove the belt from the auger gearbox on an AA260, and run just the combustion fan when starting the fire,, this allows better control of the adding of coal.. On an AA130, the auger drive belt is the inner one, it may be a bit more work to remove it during the fire-starting operation.

Hope this helps.. Greg L

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