How much coal should I use ?
- BigFoot
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I have a AA130 heating my house, Old farm house ,1850 sq ft to 71 degrees down stairs and 67 degrees up (8 rooms) and my garage 2800 sq ft to 55 down stairs and 62 up ( 25 ft x 56 ft up and down )My house is heated true hot water to air , I have a air handler on top of my oil burner ( made to burn LP ) the blower pushes air true the air handler and true the ducks to the rooms , my garage has a air handler that is heated with hot water after 150 ft of PEX under ground, and the one air handler blows the hot air ,in the down stairs and true heat greats in the floor to the up stairs My AA130 will use about 130lb of Buckwheat in 24 hr at 33 degrees out side , when it under 25 degrees it will use a little more (50 to 60 more lb )
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- hotblast1357
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I’m heating 2500 sqft of new construction, terrible insulation and not sealed, to 72 degrees, eshland 260 is out in building with 80’ of buried pex, I burn 55 pounds in 24 hours with 30 degree temps. Including dhw.
- lsayre
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I don't believe an old farm house can be compared to new construction with 6" stud walls and modern insulation. That said, 130 lbs. to 190 lbs. per day is a lot of coal. Heating a 2,800 ft. garage to 55 degrees is my guess as to where the biggest part of the coal consumption is going. It may actually not be excessive, given the garage demand.
- hotblast1357
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It doesn’t heat that easy..
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- hotblast1357
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I wasn’t necessarily saying he was usin a LOT of coal compared to me, just telling him what I’m hearing with a the same boiler just bigger.
- BigFoot
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Thanks for your talk backs ,when its 36 and up my coal use is drop off to 45 ot 65 lb in a day , still better then oil that I was using before coal ,with just the house I was close to 1500 to 2000 gal a year that hurt my fix was coal and I'm glad I did it with a AA130 ,it heats the two places great ,last year 9 1/2 ton this year I'm at 81/2 now ant I keep it going all year to heat my water ! been heating with coal almost 10 years
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I'm think'in that is very reasonable coal consumption. 4650 sq ft is a lot of area to heat even if 2800 of it is only 55 degrees.
You would get a little more power out of the 130M if you switched to pea coal in the winter. Although the heat exchanger/air handler systems work well, there are some inefficiencies with them. One of them is, no radiant heat. It might be a good idea to get a couple radiators in there, if you have the time, money and space to put them.
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The AA130 is doing a great job. 1800 gallons of fuel is about the same as 9-10 tons worth of coal. Now you are heating your garage as well, and using less btu's than you used to for just the house.
With that said, I'm sure there are some simple things you can do to keep some heat in that place. Heating the outside is a tall order.
With that said, I'm sure there are some simple things you can do to keep some heat in that place. Heating the outside is a tall order.
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Hi all,
I am very new to this forum- I don't even know how to post a question, but my worry is the same as what was asked in this web. I am currently burning wood upstairs because my Keystoker Lite runs constantly if I don't. When it runs, it is loud and keeps me awake. The cold air return comes from a tiny vent in my room. It really sounds like a jet taking off. The person who installed it gave it maintenance in the fall and said that it was tip-top. I have my doubts since I am burning wood to keep it from blowing all day and night. I tried to dial it in, but I am frustrated and am considering getting rid of it. I have a 1600 sq. ft. ranch, and from reading here, it should adequately heat my home, but it doesn't. I used a manometer to see what draft it was pulling, but I don't think I am using it correctly. Please let me know if I am out of my league with this thing. I really just want to go back to wood. Oh, I bought the house this year with the Keystoker already installed. Ugh, I hate it.
I am very new to this forum- I don't even know how to post a question, but my worry is the same as what was asked in this web. I am currently burning wood upstairs because my Keystoker Lite runs constantly if I don't. When it runs, it is loud and keeps me awake. The cold air return comes from a tiny vent in my room. It really sounds like a jet taking off. The person who installed it gave it maintenance in the fall and said that it was tip-top. I have my doubts since I am burning wood to keep it from blowing all day and night. I tried to dial it in, but I am frustrated and am considering getting rid of it. I have a 1600 sq. ft. ranch, and from reading here, it should adequately heat my home, but it doesn't. I used a manometer to see what draft it was pulling, but I don't think I am using it correctly. Please let me know if I am out of my league with this thing. I really just want to go back to wood. Oh, I bought the house this year with the Keystoker already installed. Ugh, I hate it.
- StokerDon
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Welcome to the forum M.D.
The way to approach this properly is to start for you to start a new thread with your question as the subject.
A very good freind of mine thet has been an avid wood burner for 30+ years recently installed a Keystoker Koker Lite in his 2400 sq ft home. This was a few years ago and the unit has done a grate job of heating his entire house. so there is hope and we can get you there.
-Don
The way to approach this properly is to start for you to start a new thread with your question as the subject.
A very good freind of mine thet has been an avid wood burner for 30+ years recently installed a Keystoker Koker Lite in his 2400 sq ft home. This was a few years ago and the unit has done a grate job of heating his entire house. so there is hope and we can get you there.
-Don
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Hi all,
I am very new to this forum- I don't even know how to post a question, but my worry is the same as what was asked in this web. I am currently burning wood upstairs because my Keystoker Lite runs constantly if I don't. When it runs, it is loud and keeps me awake. The cold air return comes from a tiny vent in my room. It really sounds like a jet taking off. The person who installed it gave it maintenance in the fall and said that it was tip-top. I have my doubts since I am burning wood to keep it from blowing all day and night. I tried to dial it in, but I am frustrated and am considering getting rid of it. I have a 1600 sq. ft. ranch, and from reading here, it should adequately heat my home, but it doesn't. I used a manometer to see what draft it was pulling, but I don't think I am using it correctly. Please let me know if I am out of my league with this thing. I really just want to go back to wood. Oh, I bought the house this year with the Keystoker already installed. Ugh, I hate it.
I am already at 3 tons of coal while burning wood at the same time. I truly am lost with this thing. Any help is appreciated.
I am very new to this forum- I don't even know how to post a question, but my worry is the same as what was asked in this web. I am currently burning wood upstairs because my Keystoker Lite runs constantly if I don't. When it runs, it is loud and keeps me awake. The cold air return comes from a tiny vent in my room. It really sounds like a jet taking off. The person who installed it gave it maintenance in the fall and said that it was tip-top. I have my doubts since I am burning wood to keep it from blowing all day and night. I tried to dial it in, but I am frustrated and am considering getting rid of it. I have a 1600 sq. ft. ranch, and from reading here, it should adequately heat my home, but it doesn't. I used a manometer to see what draft it was pulling, but I don't think I am using it correctly. Please let me know if I am out of my league with this thing. I really just want to go back to wood. Oh, I bought the house this year with the Keystoker already installed. Ugh, I hate it.
I am already at 3 tons of coal while burning wood at the same time. I truly am lost with this thing. Any help is appreciated.
- freetown fred
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Be patient M, the Keystoker guys will get ya where you need to be.
- oliver power
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Hi mdprincipal,
As StokerDon said, Start a new post of your own. This way all attention would be directed towards YOUR situation.
Some pictures of your set up would also be very helpful. Sounds like you may have restricted air flow problems.
As StokerDon said, Start a new post of your own. This way all attention would be directed towards YOUR situation.
Some pictures of your set up would also be very helpful. Sounds like you may have restricted air flow problems.
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They did start a new post. Pretty much ended up with giving up on the stove altogether.oliver power wrote: ↑Sun. Apr. 01, 2018 2:11 amHi mdprincipal,
As StokerDon said, Start a new post of your own. This way all attention would be directed towards YOUR situation.
Some pictures of your set up would also be very helpful. Sounds like you may have restricted air flow problems.
How do I use my Keystoker Lite efficiently?