KA6 Timer Replacement

 
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Post by not2bad » Sat. Feb. 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Hi all. :D I was wondering if anyone has or is using a different timer than the Tork 8301 timer? Mine, on the KA6 keystoker I installed new this past fall, has the pins wanting to fall out. :roll: I emailed NSI who makes the 8301 and the manager said they only replacement is the DG180A. I actually think they just discontinued this recently. This costs just $230.84 from ZORO. Anyone find something better/cheaper? Thanks. :what:


 
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Post by nepacoal » Sat. Feb. 17, 2018 4:51 pm

Intermatic has a 1 hour timer (c8865 - $81) or a 30 minute timer (c8835 - $125) that many people use. My kaa-4 came with the 30 minute timer.

 
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Post by not2bad » Sat. Feb. 17, 2018 5:00 pm

What about a digital timer? Thoughts?

 
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Post by lzaharis » Sun. Feb. 18, 2018 1:56 pm

not2bad wrote:
Sat. Feb. 17, 2018 3:23 pm
Hi all. :D I was wondering if anyone has or is using a different timer than the Tork 8301 timer? Mine, on the KA6 keystoker I installed new this past fall, has the pins wanting to fall out. :roll: I emailed NSI who makes the 8301 and the manager said they only replacement is the DG180A. I actually think they just discontinued this recently. This costs just $230.84 from ZORO. Anyone find something better/cheaper? Thanks. :what:
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I wonder if your timers box got really hot and distorted the clock face?? Did you ask if you could buy a new timer wheel???

If you cannot purchase a new timer wheel I would replace it with an Intermatic timer as you can purchase spare timer motors for them. I have my 30 minute Intermatic timer mounted on my hopper away from the fire door.

You can purchase mechanical timers locally at an electrical supply house.
I had to replace the timer motor on the Intermatic 30 minute timer that was supplied with my boiler and it cost me $27 and change with the tax and the time to drive to and from town.

 
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Post by vibert_c » Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 7:57 pm

@not2bad
Mine, on the KA6 keystoker I installed new this past fall, has the pins wanting to fall out.
Are you referring to the "brass trippers" that moves the mechanical switch to the ON / OFF position.? If so they must be better than finger tight to perform reliably. If the timer disc still functions; have a go at new "trippers". Remember, it is all in the details, "read the frigging manual" mate!

 
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Post by vibert_c » Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 9:29 pm

@not2bad
Here is the URL for replacement "trippers"

https://www.amazon.com/Time-Switch-Replacement-Tr ... M2KKTC4VC3

under $10.- Wow! with shipping


 
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Post by Zinj » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 8:00 am

Just had an issue with my intermatic c8835 timer laast night. Got hung up on a pin and I caught it at 3am when it was above 260 degrees. In anyone's experience, is it typically the timer motors that go bad? Looks like I have to order parts regardless. Its running fine now but I'll have a pretty restless weekend.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 9:31 am

Zinj wrote:
Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 8:00 am
Just had an issue with my intermatic c8835 timer laast night. Got hung up on a pin and I caught it at 3am when it was above 260 degrees. In anyone's experience, is it typically the timer motors that go bad? Looks like I have to order parts regardless. Its running fine now but I'll have a pretty restless weekend.
That is why the timer circuit should go through a high limit control. You are lucky you caught it.

You should be able to get a new timer motor.

 
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Post by nepacoal » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 10:29 am

You can buy just the motor for the timer. I purchased this one as a spare for my C8835 intermatic timer. I don't know how hard it is to replace but I wanted a spare on hand in case it failed and did not want to buy a $115 timer to sit on the shelf. These motors cost 25 or 30 bucks instead of buying a new timer for over $100.

Intermatic WG780-12D Timer Clock Motor For C8835

 
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Post by Zinj » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 11:19 am

Tough to find the parts on short notice so i drove an hour to keystokers shop to get a new timer...but i got it. :)

 
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Post by Zinj » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 11:21 am

Rob R. wrote:
Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 9:31 am
That is why the timer circuit should go through a high limit control. You are lucky you caught it.

You should be able to get a new timer motor.
Thank you for the info. Just to make sure I understand the right way, wire the timer power through the high limit switch is what you are saying?

 
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Post by Zinj » Fri. Mar. 23, 2018 11:32 am

Looking at the aquastat, the high limit was wired in parallel to the thermostat. Correct me if im wrong ( standard electrician not a controls guy here), I'd have to add a relay to cut the timer power?
Edit: high limit is single pole.

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Post by lzaharis » Mon. Mar. 26, 2018 10:26 am

I do not have a relay to control the timer it is wired or need one on my KAA-4-1.
After I got rid of the 2 sets of junk hydrolevel controls I made sure the wiring was set up right with the following
in the timer:

1. white conductor-(clock terminal) to L2

2. black conductor-(switch common) terminal in timer to L1

3. red conductor-(normally open) to B1

I am sorry that you had to buy an entire timer for your KAA-6 that is unfortunate as they are less than $28. 00 with sales tax.


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