Gentlemen janitor GJ-9R

 
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Post by miner1979570 » Thu. Feb. 01, 2018 9:32 pm

I am looking for parts for this stoker. The feed auger in the fire pot and grates. Would also like to make the pot turn again. My father unhooked the turning gears cause ball bearings went out. Would like to make it factory new again or should just retro fit a efm 520 pot in it?


 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 9:32 am

Dave O'Neil has a few EFM S-20 stokers from 520 boilers. One could be used with the old EFM base mounting face plate to make it as simple as possible .

That would be a way for not to much work or money.

 
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Post by Pacowy » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 10:08 am

If you want a rotating pot you'd need to go with one of the bigger EFM's (S-30, S-35 or S-45) or maybe an older conversion stoker (e.g., if you want the rotating pot to support ash removal). Do you know the lb/hr or ash ring outer diameter of the 9R?

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Post by StokerDon » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 6:19 pm

General Machine & Manufacturing Co  
Address: 412 Keystone Ave, Peckville, PA 18452
Phone:(570) 383-0990
They have the rights to the Gentleman Janitor line of stokers. They also manufacture and sell the parts.

You could also try Mark's Supply 570-462-0748. They sell parts for just about every coal stoker you can think of and have been doing it for a very long time.

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Post by miner1979570 » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 6:35 pm

Pacowy wrote:
Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 10:08 am
If you want a rotating pot you'd need to go with one of the bigger EFM's (S-30, S-35 or S-45) or maybe an older conversion stoker (e.g., if you want the rotating pot to support ash removal). Do you know the lb/hr or ash ring outer diameter of the 9R?

Mike
I will measure this weekend. I didn’t want to go to big with the efm pots. Wanted to stay closer to factory

 
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Post by miner1979570 » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 6:39 pm

StokerDon wrote:
Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 6:19 pm
General Machine & Manufacturing Co  
Address: 412 Keystone Ave, Peckville, PA 18452
Phone:(570) 383-0990
They have the rights to the Gentleman Janitor line of stokers. They also manufacture and sell the parts.

You could also try Mark's Supply 570-462-0748. They sell parts for just about every coal stoker you can think of and have been doing it for a very long time.

-Don
Thanks for the numbers Don. I tried marks but they had to cast them. I got a blower motor there in spring and felt I had to open the wallet pretty far lol. They stock efm parts and only 45 min away that’s why I thought about a conversion

 
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Post by StokerDon » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 7:08 pm

General Machine probably won't be cheap either. The Gentleman Janitor parts are high quality, not very common so they are more expensive than EFM 520 parts.

I don't know how big a 9R is but it's probably bigger than an EFM 520. Like Mike said if you are converting to an EFM stoker it would likely have to be one of the bigger ones. Parts for those aren't cheap either.

Good luck!

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Post by Scottscoaled » Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 10:44 pm

Ok let's get this straightened out a little more. The GJ pot doesn't actually turn. Just a ring installed between the pot lower and pot upper turns. Measure the width of the retort (pot) and maybe post a picture and it will help considerably. I would think that you would have a 14.5" pot or so. If it is much bigger than that you are looking at a big money number.

 
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Post by miner1979570 » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 2:01 am

Scottscoaled wrote:
Fri. Feb. 02, 2018 10:44 pm
Ok let's get this straightened out a little more. The GJ pot doesn't actually turn. Just a ring installed between the pot lower and pot upper turns. Measure the width of the retort (pot) and maybe post a picture and it will help considerably. I would think that you would have a 14.5" pot or so. If it is much bigger than that you are looking at a big money number.
I measured thing today and it seems bigger then 14.5. Also I included pics in a new post that shows to my appearance the pot does turn grates included. If memory serves me it rides on like 1/4 inch ball bearings. Maybe I am not looking at it right but just seems that way to me

 
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Post by miner1979570 » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 2:09 am

Please excuse the coal. It’s coal from superior prep and will NEVER get there again. It’s supposed to be buckwheat but till it gets through the auger it’s #4 coal.

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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 9:09 am

Looks like 8 burn rings and a 16" ash ring. I don't know anything about the rotating pot GJ's but if it was a non-rotating pot I would guess it is equivalent to the GJ-63. The 63 should be able to push 40 pounds per hour. What are you heating with this monster?
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By the way, that is a lot of fines in there.

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Post by Pacowy » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 10:01 am

In the EFM world a 16" unit with a rotating pot would be an S-30 stoker from a 700, or a 16A or UFR conversion stoker. I have no literature on that GJ so I don't know how the ratings compare.

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Post by miner1979570 » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 12:51 pm

StokerDon wrote:
Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 9:09 am
Looks like 8 burn rings and a 16" ash ring. I don't know anything about the rotating pot GJ's but if it was a non-rotating pot I would guess it is equivalent to the GJ-63. The 63 should be able to push 40 pounds per hour. What are you heating with this monster?
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By the way, that is a lot of fines in there.

-Don
Heating two homes with it. One 1200sf and one 3800sf home. As for the fines it’s all the coal. Got 15 buckets from hazelton shaft and 15 from Sherman prep to be positive I don’t have a major issue, all fines issues went away when other coal was used. Also keep in mind I have the bin auger unhooked and just the stub auger in a barrel feeding it cause of the crushing of the coal. It absolutely the worst coal in 30 plus years I ever seen. Won’t recommend them to anyone. I am burning the soft buckwheat in a harman sf250 in the bigger home instead of throwing it out. It’s a real treat to burn it in there.

 
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Post by Scottscoaled » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 2:03 pm

You have other parts you need to get first. I see a couple broken rings. They are critical with a GJ. If a piece falls out, it makes a hot spot that will melt down several rings. As far as getting parts from General Machine, sometimes he's there, sometimes not. I think I have a stoker like that out in the barn. Let me check. What is the reason for needing the rotating pot?

 
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Post by Scottscoaled » Sun. Feb. 04, 2018 2:10 pm

I have restored several GJ's and am running one right now. I have one with the same size pot as yours in a greenhouse waiting to be fired. They are a different pot shape than EFM's. The bottom is wider by a bunch. It makes the coal burn up into more coal so there is a complete burn. Something that the GJ's share with the Van Wert pots/rings. The EFM's pot may be wider but shallower. That's why they need the rotating pot. To spread the coal out. The rotating pot also helps with coal that cakes. Red ash coal usually. Where did your coal come from that makes all the fines?


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