Difference between a Keystoker KA6 and KFA
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Thank you CoalJockey
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Good evening everyone I hope that everyone is well I have been running the ka6 for about two weeks now and life is good it is really working well I have been burning rice and averaging about 80lbs a day (24hr) as cold as it has been up here the last two weeks I don't think that is two bad I have another question I just got my Dwyer Mark II manometer the red fluid and hose came with it but there is nothing to put into the fire box is there a special adapter that you buy or do you make one out of a copper tube also I was wondering what size hole you drill into the door my boiler is old enough that it did not come drilled.
Thank you for your help
M.M.
Thank you for your help
M.M.
- StokerDon
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A lot of people use 1/8" copper or break line. The hole should be just barely big enough for the hard line to squeeze through.
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Thank you Don the hose that I have is a double line should I discard it and run a single tube?
Thank you
M.M.
Thank you
M.M.
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It doesn't change the reading any if the hole doesn't fit tight. It's a 1/8" tube reading a 8" flue pipe...a little leak isn't a factor.
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Thanks McGiever I am really liking the stoker it so nice to have a nice warm house again and not have to work at it so far I have not forgot to dump the ashes I really do like the hydrostat that thing really works when the weather warms up and there is not much demand it will drop the temp of the boiler until the demand is needed and then it will bring it back up pretty cool
Hope that all is well
M.M.
Hope that all is well
M.M.
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I think you are describing the vinyl tubing?
Many of us grab no-kink brake line and bend it to run into the inspection door hole, plus one on the flue pipe (before baro) and connect the vinyl tubing over the brake line. Then can switch to check at either place by changing the vinyl tubing connection.
I leave a piece of vinyl tubing on the brake line on the gauge side and just switch it as needed. (After initial install, never really needed to change it, just over the fire measurement is fine)
If you check the baro install thread, you can see what I did on my KA6, as well as others have done.
If you need a pic, shout
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Thank you CoalisCoolxWarm I will look up the baro install I am sure that I will enjoy it and also learn from it I am also enjoying the Ka6 it is worth every ounce of work and energy that I put into it.
Thanks again
M.M.
Thanks again
M.M.
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Agreed!
Here is a thread with 274 posts about manometer install. Surely you will find one you like
Manometer Install
Here is a thread with 274 posts about manometer install. Surely you will find one you like
Manometer Install
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- Coal Size/Type: nut/anthracite/pea
- Other Heating: harman p68, elmtree,harthstone,new mack
Thank you again I will look at it tonight I am going to install it tomorrow just sat down I put another 60 bags of Santa coal into the basement a bag at a time not to bad of a job just a lot of steps to go up and down
Thanks again
M.M
Thanks again
M.M
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- Coal Size/Type: nut/anthracite/pea
- Other Heating: harman p68, elmtree,harthstone,new mack
Hello every one I put the last peace onto the boiler I put a Dwyer mark II on the boiler I was pretty close on the draft it .03 now I have .02 here is some pictures of my set up
I want to thank eveyone for all the help and advice tha you all gave me
Thanks again
M.M.
I want to thank eveyone for all the help and advice tha you all gave me
Thanks again
M.M.
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Good Job there Bill !!!
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- Other Heating: harman p68, elmtree,harthstone,new mack
Thanks McGiever, it warmed up today and I think that I have it dialed in now I stayed home from work today because I was mot sure what was going to happen and as I thought the temp on the boiler went up when I first looked at it, it was up to 204*f and climbing, on my pins I was running 5 every 1/2 hour and 2 every 15 min. what I ended up with is 2 pins every half hour it went all after noon about 6 hours and the boiler did not go out I think that the little blower is keeping it going. I was wondering if anyone else has run there boiler on two pins every half hour and if so did the fire keep going or did it go out after awhile? When there is a heat call it seem to come right back to life, so I am thinking that is where it should be set
Thank you
M.M.
Thank you
M.M.
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Most guys run a 15 minute timer cycle on these units. You can probably get away with a 30 minute cycle in this weather, but in the spring/summer I don't think that would be enough.
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I run mine with 2 pins every 10min. 0, 10, 20,30. You need to watch when the weather flips, too little run time/draft will cause an out fire. Not a big deal if the boiler does not call for heat. If it does... You may end up with 200# of coal in the ash pan.