Coal Gun S- 130 Install

 
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Post by lsayre » Tue. Nov. 07, 2017 5:07 pm

FirstcoalstokerRon wrote:
Tue. Nov. 07, 2017 5:06 pm
Again I say thanks,

Now I am going out to find some fire starters.
Natural wood charcoal probably works best.


 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Nov. 08, 2017 5:23 am

Yes just shove a bunch of charcoal into the middle of the pot into the coal, fill the hopper half way up also right now!

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Nov. 08, 2017 5:51 am

lsayre wrote:
Tue. Nov. 07, 2017 5:07 pm
Natural wood charcoal probably works best.
Agreed. I have used that on my EFM a few times and it works very well.

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Thu. Nov. 09, 2017 3:22 am

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This is optional. It is not mentioned at all to my knowledge in the Coal Gun manual. I have done it both ways. Ashes and no ashes, and it works fine either way. The last 2 times I fired up, I did not add ashes.
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First I want to thank all of you that have helped me with the installation of my COAL GUN S-130. As you all know I knew nothing about burning coal let alone installing a boiler when I came on here . But thanks to all of you I lit my first coal fire.

As I did not have any ashes, I filled the hopper of my COAL GUN with anthracite pea coal, hooked the elect. up. placed the lid on the hopper and pushed about 12 chunks of natural wood charcoal into the coal and lit them with a propane torch . I put the tombstone cover back on opened a beer and watched it burn.

Its been burning for about 6 1/2 hours now and all seems well and the temerature in the house as gone up about 15 degrees since I lit the boiler !!!

" whoopee" I am still looking at the fire and loving every minute of it.

I DO WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP !!! I COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITH OUT ALL OF YOU!!! THANKS AGAIN !!!

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Thu. Nov. 09, 2017 4:45 am

Congrats!

What do you have the aquastat set at? Make sure to turn the ash grate on!

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Sat. Nov. 11, 2017 12:48 am

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Congrats! <br/>
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What do you have the aquastat set at? Make sure to turn the ash grate on!
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I did not change any of the adjustments from the way they were set by AHS. I started the first fire about 53 hours ago, then I turned the grate switch on 4 hours later. I set the mode switch to ash only when the fan is running,

It did not ash for about 24 hours, but now it seems to be ashing as there is ash in the ash bin with a small amount of coal. No out fires so far !! The fan comes on at 160 degrees and shuts off at 180 degrees.
One thing that is confusing me is the fact that the circulator did not run for over 6 hours yet the room temperature is 74 degrees and the thermostat is set at 70 degrees, I intend to buy some strap on thermometers so ill know the true temperatures of the piping, but as of now the return line feels as hot as the supply line. I have a monoflow hot water baseboard heating system, could the water be gravity feeding??

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sat. Nov. 11, 2017 6:29 am

Did your circulator come with a flow check built in?

U could buy strap on themometers, or a cheap infrared gun that you will use for everything! Amazon has great deals on them or your local hardware or auto stores, even wal mart.

It very well could be gravity flowing, not so bad if you can handle the heat, as it will lesson your dump zone calls, and make everything more stable, you may go through a little more coal..


 
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Post by Rob R. » Sat. Nov. 11, 2017 6:39 am

Ron, do you have a flow-check in the system to prevent gravity circulation?

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Sat. Nov. 11, 2017 1:31 pm

No check valves and I am going to get strap on temperature gauges or an infrared gun.

But heat with out circulators seems hot, no pun intended, more coal and less electric, I love it.

Does that mean I dont have to have an overheat dump zone?

Only 1 zone is hooked up now will things change when the rest are pumping?

I love watching it burn!! I bet the electric company will hate it!

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Mon. Nov. 13, 2017 2:27 pm

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The fan comes on at 160 degrees and shuts off at 180 degrees.
The only circulator that is connected has not run since the temperature in the house reached the thermostat set point of 70 degrees, the return line feels as hot as the supply line and as I have a monoflow hot water baseboard heating system, could the water be gravity feeding?? If so is this a good thing or a bad thing?? Will it keep doing this when the other three zones are hooked up and working ??
I know I ask a lot of questions but I hope all of you will remember I knew nothing about installing a boiler or burning coal when I first bought the COAL GUN S-130, but thanks to all of you its got fire in its belly and the house is warm..
I am going to hook up the DHW going after the parts now. any and all help and advice will be appreciated , THANKS AGAIN

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Wed. Nov. 15, 2017 4:54 am

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You have several choices (at least). Among them:<br/>
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1) You can use the coil to directly feed the home with DHW (via a tempering valve) as I do.<br/>
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2) You can use the coil to feed a HWT that is heated by electricity, or any other typical HWT heat source. You will use far less electricity since you are feeding the HWT with water that is already hot.<br/>
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3) You can skip all of the above, buy an indirect HWT, and run it as a zone. The aquastat tied to the indirect tank will make heat calls to your boiler as if it was a T-Stat.
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I installed my DHW as it is in number 2 and I installed a tempering valve on the outlet side of the hot water tank.
I am just not sure where to install the potable hot water expansion tank, should it be on the outlet side also?

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Nov. 15, 2017 5:18 am

If your system didn’t have an expansion tank before, chances are you won’t need one now?

Are you on a private well or municipal feed?

 
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Post by FirstcoalstokerRon » Wed. Nov. 15, 2017 2:22 pm

I have municipal feed water and so many have told me I need an expansion tank so I bought one now not sure where to install It. As I got it I guess I should install it just not sure where as some say on hot side and others say on the cold side

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Nov. 15, 2017 2:53 pm

As long as it’s in your portable water system, can’t see it mattering much. It’s all the same water, it just flows in certain ways

 
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Post by nepacoal » Wed. Nov. 15, 2017 4:40 pm

I've always seen the DHW expansion tank suggested to be on the cold side... With just the coil and no backflow preventer, I do not have one on my system.


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