LL AA-220 Relocation
- swyman
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That was my original plan but I have a 36" door and a 39" tote. My builder could not get the bilco wide enough to get a larger door. I would have been totally set!hotblast1357 wrote: ↑Sun. Jul. 22, 2018 12:09 pmWhy not make it so that the skid steer can lower the tote down into the basement, and be able to move the tire with a pallet jack, and use the vac system to transfer from tote to boiler hopper.
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Oh, OK, that sounds good!
Disregard my comment about using 1/2" plywood then. I would go with 3/4" treated, at least on the bottom section. The further you go up in the coal bin, the less stress there is.
If you minimize the lumber inside the bin, that size will hold over 9 ton of Rice.
-Don
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Don, is there much difference in volume between rice and buck? I am going all in on buck this year.StokerDon wrote: ↑Mon. Jul. 23, 2018 6:31 pmOh, OK, that sounds good!
Disregard my comment about using 1/2" plywood then. I would go with 3/4" treated, at least on the bottom section. The further you go up in the coal bin, the less stress there is.
If you minimize the lumber inside the bin, that size will hold over 9 ton of Rice.
-Don
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I've never had Buck but the volume it takes up would only be slightly different than Rice. My coal supplier says the Blaschack Rice is about 35 sq ft per ton.
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I was doing some inspection and noticed I have a hairline crack in one of my stoker beds. It is not split but have to ask...be concerned or run it and keep an eye on it?
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Got a picture? It's hard to judge "sight unseen".
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Still need to snap that pic.... I had a thought and don't know why I didn't think of it before regarding a boiler bypass valve. In this relocation process and scrambling to get burning last year, I just skipped this pretty important step due to the time involved on adding this feature. Due to my negligence I still experienced the same close to boiler shock symptoms but was much better with the boiler being in the house with the radiant heat. With a delta T across my duct coil is averaging 40* it just now occurred to me I put a bypass in that loop. Could I crack the valve between the supply and return to get the same affect as a boiler bypass? And would I also need to throttle the valves or one valve in the line/lines to force through the bypass? I could use a IR Gun on the pipes and adjust to bring the delta t closer together?
Also, my boiler room is directly above my living room and the boiler room stays a toasty 85* all winter. I was thinking of putting in a register or grate behind the couch for all that nice hot air to rise up into that room or do you think I get enough heat through the floor? This room is 420sqft with vaulted 10' ceilings.....would like to of had it a little warmer last winter..... Just don't want to cut a 12"x12" hole in the floor/carpet and regret it. Hopefully next weekend I will get the coal bin walls up and get that coal in the basement. Will take pics, can't wait to light a fire!
Also, my boiler room is directly above my living room and the boiler room stays a toasty 85* all winter. I was thinking of putting in a register or grate behind the couch for all that nice hot air to rise up into that room or do you think I get enough heat through the floor? This room is 420sqft with vaulted 10' ceilings.....would like to of had it a little warmer last winter..... Just don't want to cut a 12"x12" hole in the floor/carpet and regret it. Hopefully next weekend I will get the coal bin walls up and get that coal in the basement. Will take pics, can't wait to light a fire!
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Insulate the boiler and piping better...
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You know all about my temperature differential on the furnace coil loop, do you think I could throttle that with that bypass valve to lessen my delta t?
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If you delta is 40 degrees, a bypass might help but that's a lot of temperature drop. Sounds more like your burner isn't able to keep up. That's if the 40 degree drop is constant over a long run. Limiting heat loss will help a lot too.swyman wrote: ↑Fri. Sep. 28, 2018 11:54 amStill need to snap that pic.... I had a thought and don't know why I didn't think of it before regarding a boiler bypass valve. In this relocation process and scrambling to get burning last year, I just skipped this pretty important step due to the time involved on adding this feature. Due to my negligence I still experienced the same close to boiler shock symptoms but was much better with the boiler being in the house with the radiant heat. With a delta T across my duct coil is averaging 40* it just now occurred to me I put a bypass in that loop. Could I crack the valve between the supply and return to get the same affect as a boiler bypass? And would I also need to throttle the valves or one valve in the line/lines to force through the bypass? I could use a IR Gun on the pipes and adjust to bring the delta t closer together?
Is this heat exchanger in the house, or an outbuilding?
-Don