The Small Gentleman Janitor

Stoker Coal Boilers automatically feed the coal and have controls and pumps just like any conventions boiler. They are intended to be used as a primary heat and often have domestic hot water coils as an added bonus. They can be set up independently or in dual sytem with your existing oil/gas boiler. They can accommodate both hot water base board or steam plumbing.
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StokerDon
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Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Location: PA, Southern York County!

Post Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 8:38 pm

I picked up another new toy today. I think this is the smallest Gentleman Janitor they made. Could be another GJ-51???

It was converted to oil. They just made an oil gun hole in the fire door, put some pipes inside to deflect the oil flame and that's it! They didn't even empty the coal, ash, clinkers or anything! It is all still in there.
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The exhaust passage on the back needs to be rebuilt like most of them.
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I got the pot down. It wasn't even bolted in, well the four bolts in the flange were there, but they had no nuts on them. Unfortunately, the pot won't come out the ash door as I had hoped!
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From what I can see of the pot, it looks like it's in very good shape.
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No cross tubes in this one, just open space. I had it on the truck when I stopped at Mark's Supply today. Joe said there would have been a stainless steel baffle up in there. There are a couple pieces of it left.
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From the looks of things, I would bet the boiler is still plenty good enough to use. None of the DHW plate studs are broken off, yet. It should be fairly easy to seal this one up for a quick pressure test. I don't know when I will get time to do that though. I have to get my BairMatic / Van Wert finished first!

-Don
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.
Location: Girardville Pa.

Post Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 8:43 pm

Good lord man? Again? Have you tried blinders yet?
Rev. Larry
Ashland Pa.

1 John 1:9... If we sin and we confess that sin He is faithful and just and will forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 10:00 pm

blrman07,Now don't be picking on SD,he is turning ugly ducklings into beautiful creatures. :) He can do the work ,i can watch,its more fun that way :D Sd,will this one be pink or purple ? :eek2: toothy
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Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Location: PA, Southern York County!

Post Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 10:30 pm

Be careful what you wish for W.H. The BairMatic was very close to being a chocolate strawberry, pink and chocolate brown!

Reverend Larry. My only regret is that I don't have a much bigger garage. And, live a couple hundred miles further north.

-Don
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BunkerdCaddis
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC-90 or more likely a Van Wert VW85H [to be installed (soon, very soon)(well not as soon as I had anticipated]
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Waterford 105 pulling duty, Saey Hanover II getting dressed for the party
Coal Size/Type: pea/nut
Other Heating: oil fired hydronic
Location: SW Lancaster County

Post Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 10:39 pm

I vote for an 8n Ford red and gray... 8-)

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Stoker Coal Boiler: MK2 #1
Stove/Furnace Make: Homemade Thermo Carbon Reactor
Stove/Furnace Model: MK1 #2
Location: New Zealand

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 1:24 am

Stokerholics anonymous seem to have a lost case in their hands.....every time he goes out something falls onto his wagon :gee:
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.
Location: Girardville Pa.

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 6:01 am

Not picking, just jelouse that I don't have the time or space to do it myself :lol:
Rev. Larry
Ashland Pa.

1 John 1:9... If we sin and we confess that sin He is faithful and just and will forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite
Location: Cecil County, MD

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 6:11 am

This is SD's version of Black Friday shopping!

Sooo many old boilers......sooo little time and sooo little garage space!! :D
I drive a VW TDI, heat my home & workshop with two coal stokers and have two vintage JD diesel tractors....
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Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Location: PA, Southern York County!

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 9:40 pm

Black Friday shopping indeed! I picked up a few things from Mark's Supply for the BairMatic while I was up in coal country to.

I got it off the truck today. I hosed it out with hot water but there is still stuff in there.
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I got one side plate off but busted 3 studs off doing it. I got a big surprise when I removed the rear flyash trap cover. It was completely packed full of about 40 pounds of oil soaked flyash!
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This thing could not have vented at all with all that crap in there! The exhaust passage was completely blocked.

The boiler looks good. It will likely pressure test fine. Surprisingly, the pot is one that accepts the larger auger, 2.5". It has a 14" ash ring. The pot is in very good shape, nice and smooth in the bottom and the rings look to be in good shape to.

Here is a nice Youtube video of just how one of these coal stoker boiler projects gets going. Shoveling the crap out of the flyash trap is one of the highlights!



-Don
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 10:05 pm

That video shows the not so glamorous part of your projects. Thanks for doing that.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Location: PA, Southern York County!

Post Sat. Nov. 28, 2015 10:45 pm

Your welcome. Sometimes it's a long road that needs to be traveled before you can even think about paint or assembly. And most of that road is just plain old cleaning!

-Don
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 6:46 am

StokerDon wrote:Your welcome. Sometimes it's a long road that needs to be traveled before you can even think about paint or assembly. And most of that road is just plain old cleaning!

-Don
Seems to me as tho you need to always have at least 1 of the painted units sitting nearby while you are on that long road of cleaning. Nothing like the finished product to keep you going in the right direction when you seem to be getting nowhere with "this rusty piece of junk" :) Those finished boilers are an inspiration to any of us when working on restoration projects of any kind. :up: :clap:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Location: Stillwater, New Jersey

Post Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 9:57 am

Looks like the GJ I have sitting out in the shed.
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Heating a circa 1832 farmhouse with a Harman Magnafire Mark I & a 1959 EFM 350 (heating DHW).
100% Oil Free!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Location: PA, Southern York County!

Post Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 10:15 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:Looks like the GJ I have sitting out in the shed.
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Nice! Almost an exact match. Your exhaust passage looks to be in tacked and all the DHW coil studs are there to. That's a nice boiler. Mine has a bit of road to travel before it looks like that.

Although mine does look a lot better now than when it picked it up!
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It looked like it was in a train wreck!

-Don
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Location: Stillwater, New Jersey

Post Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 10:33 am

Oh!!!
The oil gun was stuck through the viewing door?
Heating a circa 1832 farmhouse with a Harman Magnafire Mark I & a 1959 EFM 350 (heating DHW).
100% Oil Free!
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