Which Coal Boiler to Get

Stoker Coal Boilers automatically feed the coal and have controls and pumps just like any conventions boiler. They are intended to be used as a primary heat and often have domestic hot water coils as an added bonus. They can be set up independently or in dual sytem with your existing oil/gas boiler. They can accommodate both hot water base board or steam plumbing.
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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 6:22 am

The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian

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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 9:43 am

Insulated concrete forms are the way to go. Good fire rating and low infiltration. Here is a link to one company. http://www.polysteel.com/psform_3000.htm
Just Google insulated concrete forms for other companies.
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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 3:18 pm

I dabbled with large water storage in the basement when considering the wood gun from Alternate Heating Systems. You can find (in PA) a used dairy tank with faulty refrigeration - totally useless to the farmer - for a pretty good deal. I had an 850 gallon insulated stainless tank - about 10 years old for $500 lined up before I began reading this forum and made the WISE switch to coal. I don't see the benefit in energy storage using water if one heats with coal.

Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?
Burning pea coal in a rebuilt 1954 AA - 130... ahhhhh - I'm feeling it!

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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 5:09 pm

pret wrote:Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?
If your heating with coal, you didn't miss anything. :)
Nothing is impossible for people who don't have to do it themselves.

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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 6:28 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
pret wrote:Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?
If your heating with coal, you didn't miss anything. :)
It's true, it's true!!!!!!!! 26 weeks. Did you leave enough room for the backup generator? You have to post pictures of this buildup! That fold down door sounds real sweet! Come on! :) Scott
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 9:26 pm

I would love to show you pics if I could only figure out how to do it. I thought that I had it the other day but you would have got our xmas disney pictures. Any ideas let me know? Brian :oops:

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Post Tue. Apr. 22, 2008 11:21 pm

First -- sign up for a free account
{1} http://s35.photobucket.com/
{2} Save your picture to "My Pictures" in your computer scaled to
the size you prefer to post them
{3} Go into Photobucket and on the Image selection, select
browse, select the picture out of your "My Pictures" on
your computer.
{4} Enter a description if you wish in Photobucket
{5} Select Submit and the photo will appear below.
{6} Click on the URL of the picture to select it's contents
{7} Click copy
{8} Go into your "post a reply" on the forum and paste it in
Highlight it and select "Img" from the buttons straight to the
right of the "Message body" and preview or submit your
"Post a reply"
When you turn your boiler on -Does it return the favor?
I have finally lost my mind. Don't bother to return it. It wasn't working properly anyway!

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Post Wed. Apr. 23, 2008 7:17 am

Sting wrote:First -- sign up for a free account
{1} http://s35.photobucket.com/
{2} Save your picture to "My Pictures" in your computer scaled to
the size you prefer to post them
{3} Go into Photobucket and on the Image selection, select
browse, select the picture out of your "My Pictures" on
your computer.
{4} Enter a description if you wish in Photobucket
{5} Select Submit and the photo will appear below.
{6} Click on the URL of the picture to select it's contents
{7} Click copy
{8} Go into your "post a reply" on the forum and paste it in
Highlight it and select "Img" from the buttons straight to the
right of the "Message body" and preview or submit your
"Post a reply"
Or you could just use the upload attachment feature at the bottom of the reply page.
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gambler wrote:Or you could just use the upload attachment feature at the bottom of the reply page.
Daaaaaaaa

I never noticed that
When you turn your boiler on -Does it return the favor?
I have finally lost my mind. Don't bother to return it. It wasn't working properly anyway!

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Post Fri. Apr. 25, 2008 9:13 pm

Thanks the pexs came today we have been busy . The total cost is a little above what I projected but we are moveing forward.It is the house we built in 73 I plan on staying so I think it will pay off. Any other boilers that I could look at in Dansville NY area please let me know? Thanks Brian

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Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Fri. Apr. 25, 2008 10:32 pm

Come on!!! Where are the pics of that foldown wall? :) Scott
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

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Post Sat. Apr. 26, 2008 3:41 pm

The wall is weeks away. The pex is in the ground and in the house,the driveway cloth is down and we are gradeing stone. Brian

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Post Sat. Apr. 26, 2008 4:05 pm

26Weeks wrote:The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian
Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.

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Post Sat. Apr. 26, 2008 4:44 pm

Bob wrote:
26Weeks wrote:The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian
Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.
Code? What Code!

We do stuff ourself around here. :D

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Post Sat. Apr. 26, 2008 7:54 pm

cArNaGe wrote:
Bob wrote: Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.
Code? What Code!

We do stuff ourself around here. :D
Do you have home owners insurance? The insurance agent will want the installation done to recognized standards in order to provide insurance.

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