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Post by lprince » Sat. Dec. 01, 2018 7:05 pm

I looked at the rollers today for the ash grate and they were in good shape. I need to remove the grate and service the rollers to make sure they stay free.

The transfer head was all in decent shape and the oiler is good.

I need to see if I can find a seals for the gearbox as I know they were leaking when I removed it. AA does not use that gearbox anymore so the seals will be a tall order to find. Hopefully some one here has some information about the gearbox.


 
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Post by McGiever » Sat. Dec. 01, 2018 8:09 pm

My bad...thought it was the fan bearing box you were wanting seals for. :oops:

No seals there or needed. Unfortunately the oil does leak out when not held level or when overfilled...real simple or maybe too simple. ;)

 
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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 9:29 am

lprince wrote:
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I looked at the rollers today for the ash grate and they were in good shape. I need to remove the grate and service the rollers to make sure they stay free.
It's a little difficult to tell the state of the rollers with the grate installed. What you are looking for are flat spots. If the grate is installed, the flat spot will be on top right against the grate. If a roller got stuck while in operation, it will have a flat spot that will keep it from rolling even after it is freed up.

If you have not taken the transfer head apart I would at least get a new packing ring. The 260 auger spins at twice the speed of the 130 and the packing ring is the first thing to ware out, followed by the brass and the gland ring.

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Post by lprince » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 1:22 pm

Ok so I removed the ash plate to inspect the rollers. The rollers did not have any flat spots but I noticed the ring that goes up from the fire pot is partially gone at the rear
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Is this normal or do I need to repair this and weld in a new piece?

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 2:08 pm

You should fix that ring. They ran the fire too low too long.

 
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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 2:15 pm

Well, I'm glad your grate rollers are in good shape. But that fire pot needs some welding. This can be repaired by welding in a kind of half moon shaped piece of steel.

This is what the repair on my 1959 130M looks like.
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If it has ware at the bottom of the fire pot like that, it likely has ware in the swirl chamber where the fan is.

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Post by lprince » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 2:57 pm

I figured the fire pot would need repair.

When you say swirl chamber where the fan is what are you referring to so I can inspect it.
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I guess you are referring to the area in these 2 photos? I have no idea what I am looking at but I don’t see any other areas eroded away.

I saw another photo of an AA ash grate and noticed a half moon on it, my ash grate does not have that. Is that something that is missing from my asking grate?


 
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Post by coaledsweat » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 3:33 pm

My 260 grate doesn't have the half moon. I think that's the old style and they did away with it.

 
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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Dec. 02, 2018 4:33 pm

lprince wrote:
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When you say swirl chamber where the fan is what are you referring to so I can inspect it.
It's the front, outer edge. The fan constantly pelts this area with fly ash and fines so after a few decades, it wares through. When that happens, it causes a boiler leak.

This was repaired on my 1959 130M also. You can see where the ring was welded in.
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If it needs to be repaired, you will feel a step. If the step is deep, I would fix it. If it's not bad, I would run it.

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Post by lprince » Sun. Dec. 09, 2018 2:21 pm

So I finally got some time today to make the repair to the firepot on the AA260. I started out by forming a half moon out of a piece of 1-1/4 x 1/4 steel

I then cut out and squared up the bad pieces of the the firepot

I then Welded in the new piece. The weld job is not the greatest but it will suffice.

I also took Dons recommendation and when I ordered the new cone for the the separator I ordered new rollers. They were only $10 a piece and I had the order coming for the cone and the fan gasket anyway.

So the ash pan and cone have been installed. I still need to add 2' to the chimney which is hopefully going to take place next weekend. Finish up the interconnect piping and pressure test the boiler. Time is scarce right now because of the Christmas Season but next weekend the Wife will be gone on Saturday leaving me some time to work on it.

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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Dec. 09, 2018 3:12 pm

That looks like it will work. Good job!

You better get this thing roll'in, it's cold out!

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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Dec. 09, 2018 3:28 pm

Nice job! :yes:

 
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Post by lprince » Mon. Jan. 14, 2019 7:17 pm

Ok so the holidays are over and back to work on this project. Finally finished the pipe work and have a circulator pump installed. I started assembling the fan assembly and motor bracket and realized I have misplaced the bracket at the bottom of the pedestal for the fan mount. It is circled in red from my original photo when I picked up the unit. So I know I lost it and that it did come with stoker.
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How important is this bracket? It appears that it would sit flush with the floor and the rubber foot from the pedestal would sit on it. I was thinking of just purchasing something like this
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This would still give me the ability to have vibration isolation and the also level the fan bearing box to prevent the fan from hitting the fan casting plate. The leveling mount is available from my favorite shopping site Amazon for $9.65 and I can have it Thursday.

I have replaced the rubber isolators that the pedestal uses to mount to the base. I have ordered new belts from amazon and will finish the electric and chimney stove pipe this week. So with any luck I could have a fire going this weekend. :-D

 
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Post by StokerDon » Mon. Jan. 14, 2019 8:10 pm

Well, right off the bat that threaded mount doesn't even look like the original so I doubt that it will work like the original. For 9 bucks, I wouldn't be afraid to try it. That still doesn't solve the problem of the missing bracket though. The bracket is what keeps the rubber foot where it needs to be in relation to the boiler. Without it, you could destroy an expensive fan.

The rubber foot is 14 bucks from Axeman, the bracket is 20 bucks.

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Post by lprince » Mon. Jan. 14, 2019 8:53 pm

I was just reading the manual and understand now that the bracket must have a register for the rubber foot to index into. I guess I will be calling Axeman tomorrow morning and ordering some parts :(


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