Van Wert 600 Rebuild and Install Job

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joek18
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert and a EFM
Coal Size/Type: Buck & Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Location: Carbondale Pa.

Post Mon. Jan. 27, 2014 10:28 pm

Just got this Van Wert fired up last week. It took me about 2 months to tear it ALL apart, recondition everything and remove Natural Gas boiler, then install the stoker. I got lucky because the stoker is in great shape and well taken care of. It has been running since 1988 . The best is that the covers were never put on and the owner still had them in the original box, never opened! I wire wheeled the boiler down on the inside and out then painted it with Chassis Saver Silver, a very highly durable paint used in the automotive industry. (like Por 15). The rings were still in great shape and I think they were replaced once. The Coal transfer housing was feeding from the left and I needed one from the right. I found a guy that had a whole Pot, transmission drive assy. for sale with the feed like I needed. I got it for only $125! Took it all apart, saved all the spare parts and revamped the ones I needed. . It runs great, but the only problem I have is with the speed of the drive worm gear. The chain is a #41, and tranny gear is 10 tooth. the top gear is 18 tooth,. That's the one that has the shear pin in the short worm. The ashes are very heavy and looks like a lot of coal is unburned. The air is set at 3 and adjusting it didn't help. I know 3 people that had to change that gear for that reason and claim 100% improvement. Believe it or not, that gear must be increased from 18 tooth to 30 tooth! I got one on EBAY for about $25. I also ordered the tranny gear and a new #41 chain. I'll change it out on Saturday and let you all know how it works out. Well, enough for now. Ill post some pics.. :) :) [

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
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Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Mon. Jan. 27, 2014 11:10 pm

. Manual shows needing 10 and 15 tooth
Also a 600-1 tranny, not a 400-1.
Also a 3" pulley on the transmission, 4" pulley on the motor.
Also a 2" pitch on your auger flighting.

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Rob R.
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Location: Chazy, NY

Post Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 5:13 am

Welcome. We would love to see some pictures of your boiler and the install.

Based on the parts list that Scott posted, it seems like your stoker has already been "geared down" a little with that 18 tooth sprocket on the auger. Better check the pulleys on the motor and tranny.

Sometimes trying coal from a different source can make a big difference.

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Post Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 6:59 pm

Are you feeding it buck? The manual specifies buck, and the Van Wert furnace I ran last year did fine with it.

Mike

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Post Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 7:18 pm

I am told they also run good with rice.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert and a EFM
Coal Size/Type: Buck & Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Location: Carbondale Pa.

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:16 pm

Here are a few pics of the assembly and installation. I did break off one of the coil studs (to lazy to heat it first) but I did successfully weld on a new one. The coil was completely disassembled, cleaned, tested, and reinstalled with a new gasket. Couldn't find a torque rating, so I used 20 ft. lbs. on all the studs to be sure they were all equal. Not sure it needed to be that much. Once the gasket starts squishing out all around, I think that's enough. That worked great.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert and a EFM
Coal Size/Type: Buck & Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Location: Carbondale Pa.

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:32 pm

Yep, I feed it buck. I do have the right pulleys on the motor and tranny. I have the same parts sheet you showed and did see the different sprockets and pulley's listed. We all buy our coal from the same supplier in this area. AGEL coal & Oil out of Scranton Pa. Two of my friends had the problem with the unburned coal in the ashes last year, and AGEL told them about that 30 tooth top sprocket. I am having that problem with the 18 tooth one now, and actually plan on changing it tonight. They all claim the big sprocket does the trick! I got a 25 tooth. I ordered it before I was advised to get a 30, but I'll try it and let you guys know how it works. Oh, AGEL's reason why the coal doesn't all burn is because the feed is to fast for this hard coal. It has to sit in the pot longer to burn completely, therefore a slower sprocket. I have seen my friends ashes, and it does all burn and make lighter ashes. Right now, I can hardly lift my ash can up! I'll keep you posted.. :)

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Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:41 pm

Nice rebuild Joe. Looks better than new. :)

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Location: Chazy, NY

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:58 pm

Nice job!

Be sure to report back after you get the sprocket swapped.

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Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 7:06 pm

Very nice looking job. you two make such a lovely couple :love: but seriously ,nice job! :)

waldo

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Location: Chazy, NY

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 7:11 pm

That looks like a dual fuel unit. Block off plate on the left side?

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert and a EFM
Coal Size/Type: Buck & Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Van Wert 600 & EFM 520
Location: Carbondale Pa.

Post Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Yes, It did come out nice. Can you believe I removed a 600 Van wert from that house (my mom & dads) in 1999 to install a natural gas boiler. What a mistake! My dad sold it to his friend for $300 complete! It sits in his barn today as a spare for his house. I know because I tried to buy it back. Of course, he wouldn't sell it to anyone for a million dollars!! But I got this one for a few more dollars and still a great deal. A little newer and in better shape. Who would of thought that 15 years later I'd be putting a Van Wert Coal stoker back in that house! Mom and Dad are both passed away now, but I know they loved that Van Wert better than that Peerless gas boiler!! Anyway, Later!! :)

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