Which Boiler for Multiple Buildings

Stoker Coal Boilers automatically feed the coal and have controls and pumps just like any conventions boiler. They are intended to be used as a primary heat and often have domestic hot water coils as an added bonus. They can be set up independently or in dual sytem with your existing oil/gas boiler. They can accommodate both hot water base board or steam plumbing.
Pacowy
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite
Location: Dalton, MA

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 11:08 am

Sting wrote:As a simple figment of the public internet its hard to tell from here if its "right"

Maybe Mike can tell from where he is at ????
I can't tell from here whether it's "right" either. I can say that I'm unfamiliar with any 2500 sf house in Maine that could satisfactorily be heated in the dead of winter with that level of heat input. In the absence of any clarifying information, I would be...skeptical (that's diplomatic, isn't it?) about its validity.

Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike

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Other Heating: OBSO Lennox Pulse "Air Scorcher" burning NG
Location: Lower Fox Valley = Wisconsin

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 11:51 am

Pacowy wrote:
Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike
it Depends! I wasn't sure how you intended the association!
When you turn your boiler on -Does it return the favor?
I have finally lost my mind. Don't bother to return it. It wasn't working properly anyway!

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 12:30 pm

Petron wrote:Ok did a rough calculation..........how do you read this gibberish.....I think what it saying for my home is 32733loss.....but I'm not doing the other building untill I know if it's right
150 yr old house? Poor insulation in some areas? Drafty? Something isn't adding up.

How is the house currently heated? Please explain the system in detail and the amount of fuel it uses.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 12:37 pm

Well the page refreshed and it's all gone , but I'll do it again this evening. And the post it.....

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 12:54 pm

Ok gents / lasses which ever. I will try to discribe my home as best as possible..........cape style home
Heating is primarily done by a small leisure line econo coal stove placed in the middle of the house. Down stair consists of a room on the to the left of the living room. Living room.. where the coal stove is located.This room has stairs leading to the second floor . Kitchen. This is the original homestead....----- and the converted barn(12x14) with the main entry door----:---This room has stairs leading to the second floor .yes I have two sets of stairs Second floor has 3 bedroom . Only two were part of the original home stead the third bedroom in in the converted barn all rooms the two rooms upstairs ( home/ barn ) are joined by a door which is left open so the heat naturally circulates around the whole home.......in the cellar a real old oil boiler that picks up the slack in the cold days..anything below 25 degrees.....:)

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 12:59 pm

Oh I forgot the baseboard powered by the boiler. 3ton of coal and maybe 1 tank of oil. A year

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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite
Location: Dalton, MA

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 1:14 pm

Sting wrote:
Pacowy wrote:
Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike
it Depends! I wasn't sure how you intended the association!
I just don't want people to be compelled to suppress their own experiences, insights and judgments solely because some computer program says they should. I think some of the dangers of that have been shown here.

Mike

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Rob R.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 2:37 pm

Petron wrote:Oh I forgot the baseboard powered by the boiler. 3ton of coal and maybe 1 tank of oil. A year
Pretty miserly consumption for an old house in Maine. Does the boiler produce your domestic hot water also?

Also, does the boiler and baseboard system heat the house comfortably without help from the stove?

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 6:26 pm

dhw is by propane on demand, the oil boiler would not shut down for more than 10-20 minutes..the last time I used it on its own I burnt 4 tanks and ended up buying a wood stove in February cause I couldn't afford the oil.....that was10 years ago

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 6:28 pm

I wouldn't be able to survive with out my small coal stove, I've saved tons

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ & V-Wert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks,Itasca 415,Jensen, NYer 130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska, EFM, Keystoker, Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska, Keystoker-2,Leisure Line
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska, Gibraltar, Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Ford, Jensen, NYer, Van Wert,
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwoods
Coal Size/Type: Barley, Buck, Rice ,Nut, Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB
Location: Central NH, Concord area

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 8:00 pm

I know this has been said a million times, but once you go to a stoker boiler, you will never look back at the path you came from. I'm glad you are affordably warm, now all you need to do is find a solution that fits your needs and budget. Take your time and ask as many questions as you desire, and there are a few folk's not too far away that would be glad to share experiences. It is Jan 23 already, so your timing is perfect.
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Rob R.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 8:31 pm

Tell us about the heating system in the shop.

Petron
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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 11:22 pm

The shop has a large trailer hot air furnace in it ....as long as you keep the temp turned up above 50 it seems to work .....but work quite hard......it was the best at the time...now the business is growing and I need to grow..

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Carbon12
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace
Location: Harrisburg, PA

Post Fri. Jan. 24, 2014 12:03 am

Seems many have problems with a central boiler serving multiple structures via underground, insulated PEX. Make sure the underground PEX is 1.25 inch diameter. Cha-Ching :!: :shock:
No matter where you go,......there you are.

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Rob R.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Fri. Jan. 24, 2014 4:37 am

Petron wrote:The shop has a large trailer hot air furnace in it ....as long as you keep the temp turned up above 50 it seems to work .....but work quite hard......it was the best at the time...now the business is growing and I need to grow..
So you have never used the radiant heat in the shop? What is the BTU output of the furnace?

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