Looking to Install a Boiler

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Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2014 8:58 pm

That's a work of art!

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Post Mon. Jun. 23, 2014 8:49 am

Nice work Anthony7812, keep the thread going for a while as many are missing in action and will want to see the work and steps involved.

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Post Mon. Jun. 23, 2014 8:53 am

One thing I have overlooked in this whole process, do you guys know what 1 1/4 copper pipe costs!! Let's not mention what all the fittings in that size costs wow! When this project is done I will have about 3.15$ to my name lol. But hey I'll be warm this winter. I used a lot more copper than what I really needed tho, I wanted everything up and out of way so I would have good access to work on pumps. Bites the wallet now but will save a lot of aggrevation later.

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Post Mon. Jun. 23, 2014 12:45 pm

I hate to ask this late in the game, but are you using type M copper? If you don't specify a lot of places will just sell you type L...which is usually about $1.25 more per foot.

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Post Mon. Jun. 23, 2014 2:31 pm

I just hauled my ass to the basement to get a peak, no its M. My hvac guy purchased all the materials for me from his wholesaler.

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Post Tue. Jun. 24, 2014 8:19 pm

That's why I do heat jobs in black iron!!! Not that iron fittings are cheap anymore. :mad:

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Post Tue. Jun. 24, 2014 9:13 pm

Oh Yeah,you'll be sleepin' with some Big Time Peace Of Mind ! Impressive Job,Carry On ! :up:

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2014 2:45 pm

A few touches to perform yet. But im getta closer everyday.
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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2014 3:36 pm

Nice job of manifolding !

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2014 3:39 pm

Looking good!

If I had to criticize one thing, I'd point out that the air scoop is too close to that 90 degree bend. You want a nice straight run of pipe (18" usually) ahead of the scoop so the air bubbles rise to the top of the pipe/scoop. Moving it farther away from the 90 would also put it farther away from the boiler...so when the air vent leaks or you need to change the expansion tank , those pretty sheet metal covers won't get dirty or dented. I am sorry that I didn't notice it before everything was soldered, but I thought it was still worth pointing out. With that said, don't get mad - the system will probably work fine the day it is. The purge valves will take the frustration out of venting the air from the zones, and the air scoop should eventually get the rest.

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Post Tue. Jul. 15, 2014 3:55 pm

Im about a 9 inch run from the 90. I purchased the nicer isolation flanges that have purge valves so like you stated the bulk airmass should be eliminated thier. Hey point out away, maybe my mistakes will save the next guy ;)

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Post Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 9:36 am

Been burning for 4 days now. Some minor tweaks I'm working through now, which glad I am before it gets really cold. Found I mislanded a t stat ... Sorry to my wife on that one :oops: wow this puppy burns very little coal. 4 days and I barely touched a 5 gal pale. I made it almost 24 hrs without a boiler fire signal from the astat. Friggen thing is awesome. I installed the taco 007 with the internal flow checks on the returns, kinda wish I also installed check valves on the supply. My first zone is staying warm by just having the primary pump running. The primary pump is also a taco 007, I shut this pump off and no longer having issue but now I'm not circulating my primary loop. I have a variable speed pump I might toss in and see how it goes. I'm thinking when my heat demand rises I won't have this issue but for now I don't want a 76 degree bedroom at night. On the boiler ... A big thanks to Scott again, not an issue with the horse just gotta get the wagon to follow correctly now.

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Post Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 10:00 am

Happy for you. :D

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Post Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 10:13 am

anthony7812 wrote:The primary pump is also a taco 007, I shut this pump off and no longer having issue but now I'm not circulating my primary loop.
Why are you running that pump all the time? It should only run during heat calls.

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Post Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 10:22 am

I thought the primary loop pump ran all the time? So your saying it should only run when the aquastat tells the boiler to fire?

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