Out of Town for 36 Hrs. Leave Stoker Boiler Burning???

Stoker Coal Boilers automatically feed the coal and have controls and pumps just like any conventions boiler. They are intended to be used as a primary heat and often have domestic hot water coils as an added bonus. They can be set up independently or in dual sytem with your existing oil/gas boiler. They can accommodate both hot water base board or steam plumbing.
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:08 pm

Coal capacity not an issue. Ash capacity not really an issue. Longer than a couple minute power outage I hadn't considered. Not usually an issue but you never know. I'll keep my fingers crossed with that one. Shoveling a couple hundred pounds of unburnt coal out of the ash area doesn't sound like fun :x My main concern is simply not being home if there is some kind of hiccup with the stoker and being safe. My friends will drop in several times to check on things
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:27 pm

Carbon12 wrote: Longer than a couple minute power outage I hadn't considered.
That's one good thing about a Van Wert. efm, AA or AHS. They can burn for hours, probably the longest I've seen the Van Wert go is about 5 hours. This usually occurs when some idiot throws the power switch to do something and then forgets to put it back on. :roll:
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:45 pm

Richard S. wrote:This usually occurs when some idiot throws the power switch to do something and then forgets to put it back on.
Been there, done that... :oops: My EFM was off for 10 hours and it still came back to life on its own...but BARELY. The flame was about the same size as a cigarette lighter.

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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:47 pm

Deep cycle batteries,...deep cycle batteries and an inverter,......I know I saw them around here somewhere! :lol: I doubt the cat will freeze. :roll:
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 3:18 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Richard S. wrote:This usually occurs when some idiot throws the power switch to do something and then forgets to put it back on.
Been there, done that... :oops: My EFM was off for 10 hours and it still came back to life on its own...but BARELY. The flame was about the same size as a cigarette lighter.
I wasn't trying to test it or anything but the Harman mag stoker was off for 2.5 hours a couple weekends ago and it held the fire enough to start up on its own when I turned the switch back on. I just made sure to up the 'stat so it was feeding coal for a while to get the normal coal bed established. I was very surprised it made it that long.
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Good to know a stoker might come back to life on its own after a longer than a few minutes power outage. Thanks ALOT, though,.....now I have to experiment! :lol:
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 3:33 pm

titleist1 wrote:
I wasn't trying to test it or anything but the Harman mag stoker was off for 2.5 hours a couple weekends ago and it held the fire enough to start up on its own when I turned the switch back on.
That brings into question how safe it is power venting though. My understanding is you can power vent the smaller stokers using the bed design only becsue they will go out in a very short time.
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 3:43 pm

i was surprised it held on that long and it was fairly warm that day too, so it wasn't great draft conditions. I have outside air piped to the combustion fan intake so maybe that makes a difference?

i shut it off about 1:30 (end of 1st Q of first game) and turned it back on about 4 (it was right at kickoff of the second game) that Sunday.
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 5:55 pm

:D :D carbon12,

What about putting an autodailer on it? There are few things more fun than watching tv, have the power go out, get a cell phone call, have your wife ask who it is, tell her it's Cindy (our boiler) calling to say the power is out and the wife sitting there in the dark saying "DOESN'T SHE THINK WE KNOW THE POWER IS OUT???"
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 6:04 pm

Ha! I have a Sensaphone. It does just that! Will also call you if it hears a loud noise like a carbon monoxide or smoke alarm going off. Unfortunately, it requires a phone line. We dropped the 'ole landline before we decided to put in the coal boiler. They have a device that can use a cell phone through the Sensaphone but A) you need the device and B) you need to add a spare cell phone to your service. The Sensaphone has a water/flood sensor, temperature sensors etc....neat device,.....if you still have a landline. I guess for the peace of mind, getting a landline again might be worth it.
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 7:18 pm

Sensaphone. Whoa that is cool! I've never heard of such a device. Are they expensive? What model is it? I'd like to look them up.

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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 7:29 pm

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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 7:39 pm

I think most zone controllers have a data port , cant ya bitch it into something(pc?) that you can access remotely ?Gotta be something out there :gee:
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 7:43 pm

You guys are serious right?????????? A day and a half. Leave your K-6 stoker boiler running for a day and a half unattended? You are really a little overboard with this I think. I would hope that a K-6 could go a day and a half with out tending. If it don't, it's called a hand fired. :nana: :nana:
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Post Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 7:57 pm

Thanks for the referral on the sensa-phone. I'd not lose any sleep about your K-6 failing. Bulletproof except for a direct hit with a nuke. I like the friends visiting daily approach......so will Felix the cat. Inclined bed stokers are good for about 30 minutes, however I set-up a k-8 and we had it off for 2hrs....and it restarted itself......5 minutes, hands off, full fire. I was impressed. The K=6 won't last that long. Hell yes, leave it burning....try it year-round if it works out for you. I know several folks with the oil option, NONE have even piped it to the unit. That is how bulletproof they are. :idea: :!:
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