Harman VF3000 Discontinued?

Stoker Coal Boilers automatically feed the coal and have controls and pumps just like any conventions boiler. They are intended to be used as a primary heat and often have domestic hot water coils as an added bonus. They can be set up independently or in dual sytem with your existing oil/gas boiler. They can accommodate both hot water base board or steam plumbing.
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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 8:53 am

Can current owners recommend replacement parts that one should try to get now that would only be available through a dealer? I know the stoker motor is available through grainger. I just shut down after a year of continuous running yesterday to give my hopper a coat of chassis saver, did the same last year and still a few rust spots showed up.

One saving grace I suppose is that the stoker mechanism is common to the Mag, so one should still be able to obtain replacement grates, stoker fork etc.

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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 9:02 am

qbwebb wrote:Can current owners recommend replacement parts that one should try to get now that would only be available through a dealer? I know the stoker motor is available through grainger. I just shut down after a year of continuous running yesterday to give my hopper a coat of chassis saver, did the same last year and still a few rust spots showed up.

One saving grace I suppose is that the stoker mechanism is common to the Mag, so one should still be able to obtain replacement grates, stoker fork etc.

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Yes except they no longer make the mag with that same stoker. It was "redesigned" when they came out with the super mag.
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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 9:15 am

coalkirk wrote:
qbwebb wrote:Can current owners recommend replacement parts that one should try to get now that would only be available through a dealer? I know the stoker motor is available through grainger. I just shut down after a year of continuous running yesterday to give my hopper a coat of chassis saver, did the same last year and still a few rust spots showed up.

One saving grace I suppose is that the stoker mechanism is common to the Mag, so one should still be able to obtain replacement grates, stoker fork etc.

Replacement Parts
Yes except they no longer make the mag with that same stoker. It was "redesigned" when they came out with the super mag.
Dam, I would think at a minimum one would want to obtain a pair of grates and the stoker fork? Any word if parts are still available?
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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 9:55 am

After 10 years my grates are showing wear and I will order a replacement set. The last set I ordered for a mag stoker I was refurbing took about 3 weeks to make it all the way from PA. :lol: So don't wait till you need them. I would think they will have to make parts available for the forseeable future but you never know.

When Hearth and Home Technologies took over they jacked up all the prices. They are just part of a big conglomerate that also owns Heatilator, Heat N glo, Quadrafire to name a few. So some bean counter looks at a spread sheet and sees those products out performing coal products and makes the cut. No consideration as to the niche' market that is coal. As Whistlenut said the price of the VF3000 was jacked to $6,800. and then they wonder why they weren't selling. If they were really savvy to the coal market, they would have increased the price moderately and introduced a new stoker with about 130-140 BTU's and I think they could have captured a big segment of demand that the VF3000 was not meeting. As someone on the forum once said, the VF3000 was desgined for the sub-tropical climate of south PA and Maryland. :lol: I'm heating at the top end of it's design range. But my house is well insulated and sealed and I have almost all new windows. It won't overcome leaky old homes in the northern areas.
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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 12:14 pm

Depending on the cost and future availability of replacement Harman stoker parts, we might see a few VF3000 boilers with different stokers installed. :)

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Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 12:40 pm

Rob R. wrote:Depending on the cost and future availability of replacement Harman stoker parts, we might see a few VF3000 boilers with different stokers installed. :)
A longer grate would be nice, maybe you get get 20% more BTU/hr out of it!
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Post Thu. Sep. 26, 2013 7:43 am

I ordered a set of new grates yesterday. They were $36.00 each. I could swear I paid about half that a few years ago when I bought set for a mag stoker. :mad:

According to the Harman dealer in Rising Sun Maryland, they were told back in the spring about the discontinuing of the stoves, boilers and furnace models.
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Post Thu. Sep. 26, 2013 8:01 am

A longer grate would be nice, maybe you get get 20% more BTU/hr out of it!
That would make it almost useful up in my neck of the woods.

Coalkirk, was there any indication about future availability in parts? Mine is relatively new and has had no glitches in the stoker mechanism.

Kevin

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Post Thu. Sep. 26, 2013 8:03 am

KLook wrote:
A longer grate would be nice, maybe you get get 20% more BTU/hr out of it!
That would make it almost useful up in my neck of the woods.

Coalkirk, was there any indication about future availability in parts? Mine is relatively new and has had no glitches in the stoker mechanism.

Kevin
No, the dealer did not know about future parts availablilty. The stoker is pretty beefy. Doubtful you would ever need anything from Harman other than grates. The blower is from Fasco and the stoker motor is a Dayton, both widely available.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." —General George S. Patton

Burning rice coal in a 1981 EFM DF520, nut coal in a hand fired Jotul 507.

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